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		<title>By: Reflection and Introspection &#171; A Singular Voice</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflection and Introspection &#171; A Singular Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of this type of forum in an intellectual environment almost entirely dominated by the &#8220;immigrant Muslim Syndicate&#8220;and its dubious political agenda. For those sincere people who supported this blog, I am [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of this type of forum in an intellectual environment almost entirely dominated by the &#8220;immigrant Muslim Syndicate&#8220;and its dubious political agenda. For those sincere people who supported this blog, I am [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My Response to &#8216;Imam&#8217; Bray&#8217;s Slander By Proxy &#171; A Singular Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Response to &#8216;Imam&#8217; Bray&#8217;s Slander By Proxy &#171; A Singular Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the things which Mr. Bray mentions about my past associations (as I have already mentioned on my blog) are unfortunately true although the insidious quotes he attributes to me are pure [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do the Right Thing, Right Here, Right Now &#171; A Singular Voice</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Do the Right Thing, Right Here, Right Now &#171; A Singular Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Muhammad in Uncategorized.  trackback  As everyone knows by now, I have recently been on a campaign to surgically de-construct the fabrications, deceit, and outright LIES of confessed terrorist fund [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Abdur-Rahman Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1466</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdur-Rahman Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kameelah, As Salaamu Alaikum

Thank you for your well wishes. I certainly did not mean to offend you in any way, and do hope that you accept my humble apology as your brother. Please make du&#039;a for me as I will for you.

By the way, I also hope to write as well as you do one of these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kameelah, As Salaamu Alaikum</p>
<p>Thank you for your well wishes. I certainly did not mean to offend you in any way, and do hope that you accept my humble apology as your brother. Please make du&#8217;a for me as I will for you.</p>
<p>By the way, I also hope to write as well as you do one of these days.</p>
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		<title>By: kameelah</title>
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		<dc:creator>kameelah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive already said khalas to all of this-- faisal, i am not defending anyone, dr al-arian or anyone else--that&#039;s already been made clear.  at the end of the day the determination of his guilt it up to Allah alone.

this isn&#039;t about defending convictions; it&#039;s about the manner by which we communicate our ideas and respect we lend to alternative ideas and carry the expectation of respect for alternative ideas without fulfilling the same responsibities.  unnecessary fitna clouds clear thought and open hearts and arrogance clogs pathways to other ways of thinking.  there is too much to do in this dunya to spin my wheels.  mashaAllah and good luck.  

abdur rahman good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive already said khalas to all of this&#8211; faisal, i am not defending anyone, dr al-arian or anyone else&#8211;that&#8217;s already been made clear.  at the end of the day the determination of his guilt it up to Allah alone.</p>
<p>this isn&#8217;t about defending convictions; it&#8217;s about the manner by which we communicate our ideas and respect we lend to alternative ideas and carry the expectation of respect for alternative ideas without fulfilling the same responsibities.  unnecessary fitna clouds clear thought and open hearts and arrogance clogs pathways to other ways of thinking.  there is too much to do in this dunya to spin my wheels.  mashaAllah and good luck.  </p>
<p>abdur rahman good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kameelah:

I am very impressed with you in defending your conviction in strong support of Dr. Al-Arian like the vast majority of the black muslims. stay tuned tomorrow when the united black American Muslim leadership stand in solidarity with Dr. Sami Al-Arian and give the true position of the Muslims in this country which is to stand with the people of Palestine and true political prisoners like Dr. Al-Arian. (while giving the Abdur-Rahmans the well deserved smack down)

Abdur-Rahman:

Know your role and shut your mouth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kameelah:</p>
<p>I am very impressed with you in defending your conviction in strong support of Dr. Al-Arian like the vast majority of the black muslims. stay tuned tomorrow when the united black American Muslim leadership stand in solidarity with Dr. Sami Al-Arian and give the true position of the Muslims in this country which is to stand with the people of Palestine and true political prisoners like Dr. Al-Arian. (while giving the Abdur-Rahmans the well deserved smack down)</p>
<p>Abdur-Rahman:</p>
<p>Know your role and shut your mouth</p>
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		<title>By: Abdur-Rahman Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdur-Rahman Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kameelah,

Whew! Sister, just read the documents, unless your saying I made them up. Nuff said on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kameelah,</p>
<p>Whew! Sister, just read the documents, unless your saying I made them up. Nuff said on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abdur-Rahman you will be discredited tomorrow in NYC by the true Black American Muslim leadership. You are just angry that intelligent young people like Kameelah see through your smoke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdur-Rahman you will be discredited tomorrow in NYC by the true Black American Muslim leadership. You are just angry that intelligent young people like Kameelah see through your smoke</p>
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		<title>By: Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator>Sh. Mahmoud Ibrahim al-Amreeki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dar ul Islam / Iqaamatiddeen

&quot;And do not be as those who divided and differed among themselves AFTER CLEAR PROOFS HAD COME TO THEM. It is THEY for whom there is an awful torment&quot; { Al-Imran: 105 }

The Arian case has been  decided by the people of the United States and therefore have declared Dr. Arian not-guilty of all charges.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdpxxBR2jk

So do not insist that he cooperate with his prosecutors and give up names and associations that may imperil others still involved in struggle in Palestine. (if we flip the script, would we have asked Mandela to give up names of those he considered his comrades as a condition of his release)

Our guidance comes only from Allah in this, through His Beloved Messenger (pboh): &#039;A believer does not turn over his brother to the oppressors&quot; Bukhari 

Unless of course, you have some new information that you are willing to provide to the court...

&quot;Don&#039;t let your hatred of a people ( or disappointment with their behavior ) cause you to swerve from justice&quot;  Allah/ Qur&#039;an</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dar ul Islam / Iqaamatiddeen</p>
<p>&#8220;And do not be as those who divided and differed among themselves AFTER CLEAR PROOFS HAD COME TO THEM. It is THEY for whom there is an awful torment&#8221; { Al-Imran: 105 }</p>
<p>The Arian case has been  decided by the people of the United States and therefore have declared Dr. Arian not-guilty of all charges.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdpxxBR2jk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdpxxBR2jk</a></p>
<p>So do not insist that he cooperate with his prosecutors and give up names and associations that may imperil others still involved in struggle in Palestine. (if we flip the script, would we have asked Mandela to give up names of those he considered his comrades as a condition of his release)</p>
<p>Our guidance comes only from Allah in this, through His Beloved Messenger (pboh): &#8216;A believer does not turn over his brother to the oppressors&#8221; Bukhari </p>
<p>Unless of course, you have some new information that you are willing to provide to the court&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t let your hatred of a people ( or disappointment with their behavior ) cause you to swerve from justice&#8221;  Allah/ Qur&#8217;an</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Seeking</title>
		<link>http://singularvoice.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/immigrant-muslim-syndicate-the-evidence/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“You should care…why wouldn’t you?
You cannot tune out society. You cannot assume you can isolate everything around you because everything around us from the sound bites to the court cases, to the Daniel pipes to the Robert spencers to the whoever is inextricably connected to exactly what we are talking about. Whenever we surrender to the assumption that what happens out there doesn’t affect in here, we are headed for trouble–lots of this.”-Kameela

Salaam Alaikum Kameela:

I remain firm upon everything I said.  I don’t even care what Abdur Rahman does, I know what I need to do.  Sister Kameela, I’m down right frustrated, and fed up with so much emphasis on what others are going to say or do.  My life experiences have taught me to work around people or even through them—I can not be slowed down by worrying about what others are going to say or do.  We say that we believe in Allah s.w.t.-apart of that is accepting the Qadar the good and bad of it.  I’m prepared to focus on the big picture which I personally feel Charles explains rather intelligently, and move on.  In my opinion, that’s the bottom line—that’s what’s going to separate the wheat from the chaff in the BAM community--period. People can call me “closed minded” “foolish” or “hard hearted” if they wish, but I believe I am doing the right thing.  If it doesn’t work for others, Ma’sha’Allah, I respect that—live and let live.  It’s not the end of the world.  I accept that as a BAM we are not a monolithic group of people, and therefore everything will not work for everyone.  Some BAM need to be aware that there are those of us who are uncomfortable with these organizations, and their masjids.  What makes it so hard for BAM’s is that unlike BAC’s we can’t simply just pick another masjid down the street because we are not as large in numbers as they are. I’m not surprised by anything this brother has posted because a sister and I came to these conclusions on our own.  I have never met this brother in person, nor have I engaged in a phone conversation, but I do believe him, and I don’t need to know his intentions.  That’s just me.  Truth is everywhere—from the drunk on the street, and in the mouth of babes.   My own experience was enough proof for me.  Having a weapon pointed at my face, and barely allowed to put on a nightgown was enough for me. Being dismissed as a nutter and trouble maker was all the proof I needed. That’s me.  That was an extremely traumatic experience for me, and I won’t forget it.  I do care about our youth, and would hate to see some ones child throw their life away on an agenda that doesn’t concern them or even benefit mankind. If my husband would have made any type of startling move those ATF officers could have shot him dead. I wish every one the best in what ever position they take, and how they act upon it.  May Allah bless everyone, and grant them the desires of their heart.
Salaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You should care…why wouldn’t you?<br />
You cannot tune out society. You cannot assume you can isolate everything around you because everything around us from the sound bites to the court cases, to the Daniel pipes to the Robert spencers to the whoever is inextricably connected to exactly what we are talking about. Whenever we surrender to the assumption that what happens out there doesn’t affect in here, we are headed for trouble–lots of this.”-Kameela</p>
<p>Salaam Alaikum Kameela:</p>
<p>I remain firm upon everything I said.  I don’t even care what Abdur Rahman does, I know what I need to do.  Sister Kameela, I’m down right frustrated, and fed up with so much emphasis on what others are going to say or do.  My life experiences have taught me to work around people or even through them—I can not be slowed down by worrying about what others are going to say or do.  We say that we believe in Allah s.w.t.-apart of that is accepting the Qadar the good and bad of it.  I’m prepared to focus on the big picture which I personally feel Charles explains rather intelligently, and move on.  In my opinion, that’s the bottom line—that’s what’s going to separate the wheat from the chaff in the BAM community&#8211;period. People can call me “closed minded” “foolish” or “hard hearted” if they wish, but I believe I am doing the right thing.  If it doesn’t work for others, Ma’sha’Allah, I respect that—live and let live.  It’s not the end of the world.  I accept that as a BAM we are not a monolithic group of people, and therefore everything will not work for everyone.  Some BAM need to be aware that there are those of us who are uncomfortable with these organizations, and their masjids.  What makes it so hard for BAM’s is that unlike BAC’s we can’t simply just pick another masjid down the street because we are not as large in numbers as they are. I’m not surprised by anything this brother has posted because a sister and I came to these conclusions on our own.  I have never met this brother in person, nor have I engaged in a phone conversation, but I do believe him, and I don’t need to know his intentions.  That’s just me.  Truth is everywhere—from the drunk on the street, and in the mouth of babes.   My own experience was enough proof for me.  Having a weapon pointed at my face, and barely allowed to put on a nightgown was enough for me. Being dismissed as a nutter and trouble maker was all the proof I needed. That’s me.  That was an extremely traumatic experience for me, and I won’t forget it.  I do care about our youth, and would hate to see some ones child throw their life away on an agenda that doesn’t concern them or even benefit mankind. If my husband would have made any type of startling move those ATF officers could have shot him dead. I wish every one the best in what ever position they take, and how they act upon it.  May Allah bless everyone, and grant them the desires of their heart.<br />
Salaam</p>
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