Good for you! Yes, the free ride is over—for all sorts of parasites. And how could I have forgotten the gambling (lotto) in my earlier list? LOL! Yes, the color line is one of the core problems (no matter how much immigrants & delusional self-hating Black folks deny it) of the 20th & 21st centuries.

Wa salaam.

Salaam Alaikum!

I’m still waiting to hear individuals like Bashir denounce the immigrant Muslim merchants of death who peddle the following items in their stores within the Black community: alcohol, crack pipes, marijuana cigarette rolling paper, and other drug gear.

I won’t hold my breath while I’m waiting.

Piggybacking on what I said in the new post by AR anyone, or anything that positions you to be unable to care for yourself, and manage your life is asking you to kill yourself.

For better or for worse working for the Government at all levels in all degrees is the way that much of the black middle class was born, and was able to maintain itself. There is a reason why there not numerous successful black owned businesses.

I become really concerned when I hear Imm Muslims discouraging not just military service but working in the areas of our U.S. workforce that produce and sustain a middle class quality of life.

Yes our government has made horrific decisions concerning our military but it was NOT always that way. I have males in my family who entered in the armed forces with the intention of making it a career. Some of our brothers gift is their bronze–in this case they aren’t using it to play basketball and some of our brothers gift is their mind–they find a way or are given a way to use it.

The aftermath of so many Islamic cults, and movements are Muslim parents flat broke with a bunch of kids. Joining the military ( not now or maybe awhile) might be a more stabilizing solution to their poverty, and instability than welfare. Notice that both BAM’s and Imm’s will object: yet have not a single solution other than empty dua to help.

Salaam

There were so many typo’s in your previous message it made it difficult to decipher or comprehend. Thanks for clearing it up, and responding.

You said: “What I am trying to say that is that everybody not going to bury certain historical facts concerning the Imam and his community.May Allah have mercy on him.But there were many backward positions that this community and its leadership taught.”

SS: After all that I’ve experienced trying to be Muslim I totally believe in freedom of conscience. I also can’t believe that after all that has transpired in both the BAM and IMM community in the past year people are not questioning, investigating, and thinking for themselves. I certainly hope that isn’t the case, and understand some one disagreeing with the former Imam from a theological point of view based off of solid evidence versus conjecture. I’m not a follower or fan of his but I had to intervene in that conversation becuase what I do know of him, I know he would not advocate the deliberate murder or destruction of a fellow Muslim anywhere. That’s where I was coming from–not from the point that one should not or can not question or investigate.

Also brother Kwame, I think its unfair, un-compassionate, and unreasonable to label Muslims in the military as arab hating, hypocritical, murderous, or islamophobes. Many of that previous posters persuasion think, feel, and treat Muslims in the military this way. You and I know, that not every one in the military is there based off purely patriotic reasons. Military service for better or for worse is apart of our heritage as African Americans. Many of our family successfully transitioned into the government or private sector as a result of their service, education, and training acquired during the tenure. Many of us come from military families–if it wasn’t for uncle sam our bellies may have been swollen from hunger. Colin Powell is some one that comes to mind.

Brother Kwame, I’ll never forget the day B.E.T. had a segment with young people featuring Colin Powell. This was during his very short term with Bush whacko. An arab girl in the most disrespectful, belligerent, and down right obx noise tone asked him about the war in Afghanistan. The problem was not that she asked the problem was the manner in which she asked. Colin Powell responded matter factly to such a disrespectful young lady. Now let me tell you what I have observed in the 11 years I’ve been Muslim–for what ever reason “some” IMM Muslim do not teach their children any arab when it comes to a basic chain of command or authority furthermore they are taught to not ever acknowledge us as an authority( very evident in our current sorry az state of affairs with each other) no matter how credentialed, seasons, and world we are. This is why you will find a 9 year old Pakistani girl or 13 year old Arab girl talking to a 65 year old black grandmother like she is a dog.

Saying all that to say, I’m attacking the belief that as BAM’s we are less acceptable to Allah if we serve in the military, or are working for the Federal government. I work for the government and I’m no less or no better than any one else. These folks in the military are getting pushed from all sides:

there fellow soldiers don’t trust them
the muslims don’t trust them
plus some of us have anti-islamic ( read holy rollers) family members

That’s where I was coming from.

Salaam : )

@ AR

Thank you! : )

@ Kwame
Brother, I have no idea what you are trying to say? lol : ) can you please re-type your message?