Imam Mahdi “Wrighty” Bray’s History of Mulitiple Felonies and Deceit…All While Being a Muslim

Posted: March 27, 2009 in Uncategorized
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Wright Bray as a Muslim

I must admit that when I first saw the picture I was taken aback. My mind had to process the image. I never knew that Lionel Jefferson from the 1970′s sitcom The Jefferson’s was a multiple, convicted felon and con man. However upon closer inspection of the picture it hit me; this was not Lionel Jefferson of sitcom fame but rather the leader of the Muslim American Society (MAS), “Imam” Mahdi Bray.

All satire aside, this latest scandal involving “Mahdi” Bray is only the latest in a long series of revelations which have converged into a kind of criminal motif involving other now infamous names like“Shaykh” Khalid Yasin (con man and fraud), Dawud Adib (the man of thirty marriages), Mauri Saalakhan (admitted wife beater), the scholars for dollars and diva cult leaders that have been exposed on the Salafi Burnout blog . Long time readers of this blog will remember that during the course of my expose on the fraud and deceit of the Immigrant Muslim Syndicate, “Imam” Mahdi Bray (through a paid MAS surrogate) launched a vicious, scurrilous, and COMPLETELY FALSE attack against my character in some vain, desperate attempt to discredit or even silence this blog. Bray completely made things up. That shows what kind of person we are dealing with here, so I didn’t need to see Bray’s criminal record to know how thoroughly evil and corrupt he is because I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY!

Let me make this as plain as I possibly can so that no one misunderstands what I am saying: Mahdi Bray is a nasty, criminal, low life PIECE OF SHIT; an individual so debased, so amoral, so utterly despicable, that he stole his own grandfather’s workman compensation checks long after becoming a Muslim! A man – that even now- will say ANYTHING to save himself or his job. I will say this to his face any time and any place because I sincerely believe that and have SEEN this to be the case.

That’s right! The man that MAS represents to the public as “a long time civil and human rights activist”and “Imam” , is in reality a slimy street hustler and con man whose known by many names; Wrighty Bray, Wright Bray IV, Wrighty Bray Jr. Herbert Bray, Dwight Bray, W. Mahdi Bray and – the name people know him as today – Mahdi Bray. During the 1980′s, long after he converted to Islam in the mid to late 70′s, Wrighty embarked on a crime spree in Norfork, Va. which when finally concluded, earned him three felony convictions and multiple prison sentences in federal institutions.  His offenses included everything from cocaine and marijuana possession, grand larceny for writing bad checks, voter fraud, to the above mentioned fraud of stealing his dead grandfather’s checks.

In February 1981, using the name Wright Bray IV, “Mahdi” was spotted apparently in the middle of receiving a “blow job” in a car parked at 719 East Ocean Ave. in Norfork, Va. When police approached the car at 12:30 am, they “observed a black female bending over a black male’s lap”. It was then they saw a marijauna joint and a bag of cocaine in plain sight, which Mahdi quickly swallowed in order to destroy the evidence. Upon his arrest he claimed that the marijuana was his, but not the cocaine, which he said belonged to the women providing the “services”. Not content with that arrest, and only two weeks later, Wrighty was arrested again for cashing checks off a dead account! He was convicted both for the cocaine and larceny charges and received a sentenced of three years in the penitentiary.

“Imam Wrighty “Mahdi” Bray Defrauds the Government by Stealing His Grandfather’s Identity

In December of 1929, Mahdi Bray’s then 25 year-old grandfather, Wrighty Bray, Jr, was involved in a terrible accident on his job at the Norfork, Va Navy yards, which resulted sadly in the loss of his leg. Under the Federal Employee’s Compensation Act, Mr Bray was entitled to receive worker’s compensation for the rest of his life, which he did without any problems until he died in 1975 at the age of 71. At that point of course the benefits were suppose to stop, however the criminally minded Mahdi, being the namesake of his grandfather,

Devised and intended to devise a scheme and artifice to defraud the United States of America…by means of false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises.

In other words, he pretended to be his grandfather and continued receiving and cashing his checks to the tune of $71,000! You can see the entire court brief here. Government regulators became suspicious when they no longer received any medical bills from the senior Bray, nor were their letters to him responded to. The government believed that Wrighty Bray, Jr was indeed dead, and documented that suspicion in a hand written note. All that remained now was to lay and wait for someone as stupid and crooked as “Imam” Mahdi “Wrighty” Bray to show up at the benefits office with fraudulently signed forms and they’d have their suspect. And that is precisely what happened. Mahdi tried to drop off the forms by posing as someone called Herbert Bray. They wanted to ask him some questions about his grandfather but he claimed to be double parked and had to run. He could neither provide a phone number or means to contact the old man. Read the hand written note of the government regulator here.

To make a long story short, “Imam” “Wrighty” was indicted in June 1988 of 64 counts of mail fraud and receipt of stolen U.S. securities. On June 26, 1989, Bray plead guilty to one count of mail fraud and given a 36 month sentence. He also had to make a full restitution of the $71,000 he stole. Keep in mind that all of this happened while he was Muslim so the claims of “transformation” by this slimeball ring completely hollow.

“Imam” Mahdi “Wrighty” Bray’s Completely Fraudulent Biography.

Mahdi Bray’s scant biography is not just murky and vague, but is in fact completely fraudulent without a shred of truth in it. It is an persona constructed out of whole cloth. He has consistently represented himself as a “long time civil rights activist” and in some bios even said that he was involved with SNCC. Looking at the long criminal record, we can see that this simply is not true. This did not stop him however from representing himself in that light.

“Imam”?

Anyone who meets Bray knows that he is woefully ignorant of Islam, much less being an “Imam”. Where is the community he leads? Where is his congregation? Where is his masjid? Where did he get his Islamic education. I remember him from the days when he used to beg me, AS A REAL IMAM, to teach him Arabic. The next time I looked up he was calling himself an Imam. Everything about this man reeks of fraud! In fact, there’s no evidence that Mahdi even has a high school diploma or GED. The guy is a complete disgrace, and it’s absolutely frightening that innocent people make life decisions on the word of wanton criminals like Wrighty Bray. This entire scheme is a long line of hustles for ol’ Wright. He is riding the Imam “gravy train”.

To prove how trifling Wrighty Bray really is,  just last year he served three days in jail for traffic related offences and there’s a strong possiblity he’s guilty of voter fraud. It’s time for decent, honest, sober-minded people to wake up and kick the criminals out, for failure to do so will only mean they get what they deserve .

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  1. Haroon L says:

    I’m not surprised anymore by these guys

  2. Shocked! Shocked I tell You!!! says:

    Mahdi Bray is a criminal? You could knock me over with a feather

  3. Abu Ubaydah says:

    These revelations will only ENHANCE his credentials for leadership of MAS. Everyone get ready to give the bayah!

  4. Kareemah Masood says:

    This guy has always come off as a used car salesman

  5. Happy to Be Gone says:

    The more I learn, the more it is starting to make sense that MAS vigorously defended the Boston imams who were in the country illegally, who lied on their immigration forms and neglected to inform the government, the public, and their own congregations that they were all brothers or cousins of the founder of the notorious terror group Lashkar e Toiba. MAS pressured the communities in Boston to be silent about this and throw their support behind the imams, despite the fact that they admitted to lying, and that one of them fled the country on the eve of his being arrested or some such thing. None of them ever said that we had the right to ask questions as to why the brothers hid their family background and lied in order to enter our country, and tried to stifle these questions as “Islamophobia.” Now I know – criminals defending criminals. At least they’re loyal… thick as thieves.

  6. Mustafa says:

    @ Happy

    A gang of thieves is what this is all looking like. The truth does not matter to these people at all. That is why getting a con man to represent them makes a lot of sense

  7. Dawud Adib says:

    Subhanullah! And I thought I was bad. At least I marry the girl before getting a blow job in the car!

    Dawud Adib-style 2009!!!

  8. Abu Abdullah says:

    Mahdi Bray is not from Ahlus Sunnah and never was

  9. AbdulMateen As-Sunnee says:

    There is hope. We DO have an honest leader to look up to. Stop looking to these ignorant deviants

    It is recorded in Sahih Muslim, volume 13, page 65; al Baani also credited it as sahih in his chains, volume 1 page 478-486, that Mu’awiyyah ibn Abi Sufyan narrated that Muhammad (saw) said, “There will continue a portion from my Ummah proclaiming the truth and those that let them down will not harm them until the Hour.”

    In another narration he (saw) said, “There will continue a portion from my Ummah who will continue to fight to make the Deen of Allah prevail and those who let them down will not harm them until the coming of Eesa (as).”

    Indeed, when one observes the current landscape of the global community in the 21st century, where nations and societies continue to drown under the noise of man-made law and where the most evil of people have taken up positions of leadership and nobility, and silence against oppression has become the most righteous of virtues – we find that among all this – the aforementioned narrations of our beloved Messenger Muhammad (saw) still resonate throughout the earth.

    For over 1400 years, the Ummah of Muhammad (saw) have witnessed Kings and Queens, Presidents and Prime Ministers wage war against the Deen of Al-Islam and furthermore extract delight from the slaughter of innocent Muslim men, women and children; yet by the Will of Allah (SWT) there has always been a small portion of this Ummah, who refuse to bow their heads down to the tyrants nor let the sound of hooves or glint of swords disappear from the battlefields.

    These people continue the Sunnah at-Tadaafu’ (the confrontation against the falsehood), giving no respite to the oppressors and persevere in suffocating their corruption as much as they can.

    It is recorded in Sahih Tirmizhi, hadith no. 2565, upon the authority of Abdullah ibn Amru (ra) that the Final Messenger Muhammad (saw) said, “My Ummah will face what Bani Israel faced step by step, even if one of them approached his mother (sexually), there will be one from my Ummah who will approach his mother. The people of Israel divided into 72 sects, my Ummah will divide into 73 sects, all of them in the hell-fire, and one of them is in the Paradise.” And we asked, “Which one is saved?” And the Prophet (saw) replied, “The one that is with me and my companions.”

    Always in the minority, this select and special group of people are so noticeable, like the sun in the peak of the afternoon, on the clearest of days, they can never be missed and their scholars are few in number yet their impact so intense.

    The dearly loved companion of the Messenger Muhammad (saw), Ibn Abbas (ra), described the attributes of this unique group, which began a momentous cycle of sacrifice over 1400 years ago, that would continue to drench the timeline, with the blood of martyrs and ink of scholars until the Day of Judgement.

    On the tafseer of the ayah [EMQ 3: 106], “On the Day (Day of Judgement) when some faces will become white and some faces will become black…” Ibn Abbas (ra) said as recorded in Ibn Kathir and Tafseer Tabari, “Those whose faces will be bright will be Ahl us-Sunnah Wal Jama’ah and those whose faces will be dark will be Ahl ul-Bida’ah Wal Firqah.”

    Ahl us-Sunnah Wal Jama’ah are indeed the Prophet (saw) and his companions, and we have seen how those who follow them (the followers of Ahl us-Sunnah Wal Jama’ah), in aqeedah and manhaj, receive the harshest of tribulations, whether it be from the burgeoning of ill health or the prospect of torture at the hands of those who take great pleasure in it.

    So the cycle has continued to turn and in the year 2009C.E., 1430 years after the establishment of the first Islamic State in Madinah, and 85 years after its destruction over vast parts of the world, nestled away in the land of Lebanon, lays a group of 83 Muslims, whose firm belief in Allah (SWT) and loyalty to the Sunnah of the Prophet have shaken the tyrannical and man-made Lebanese establishment to the core.

    Consumed by the defiled culture of the Shia majority and dictated so effortlessly by the American hegemony, the Lebanese administration unable to endure the sharp words of truth that have penetrated their chests from the lips of a handful of Muwahhideen, have reacted in a manner only fitting for tyrants. In the month of February, 13 innocent men and 1 innocent woman (from the group of 83) were sentenced to death – by hanging – some of whom have already been killed.

    In addition to all of the other 68 brothers and sisters, there lies one more man, who until now has escaped the ruthless clutches of the disbelievers by the Help of Allah (SWT), whether in the concrete suburbs of Britain or the rocky mountains of Tripoli; a man who refuses to stay silent in face of the oppression and who has inspired thousands across the world to rise for Islam; his sentencing will indeed satiate the hearts of those who seek to see the ruin of the sincere followers of Ahl us-Sunnah Wal Jama’ah. So who is he? You may ask. His name is Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad.

    Catapulted in the media as a man of global vision and yielded by many as one of the most influential scholars to have pierced the Western world, undoubtedly the loss of such a man will leave a huge vacuum in the heart of the Muslim Ummah as they strive to re-establish the Islamic State.

    On April, 6th 2009C.E. Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad faces the injustice of the Lebanese judiciary, cunningly dictated by the American-Shia alliance, infamous for their treachery against those upon the Sunnah, as has been experienced by our brothers from among the Taleban or those struggling in the depths of Baghdad and Fallujah.

    So what justice can be expected from those deceitful Shia who take joy in fabricating hadith and conspiring against those who strive to liberate Palestine? What justice can be extracted from a Capitalist American regime that recently made the slaughterer of Iraq and Afghanistan, Tony Blair, their Peace Envoy to the Middle East? And what justice can be derived from a Lebanese establishment so vehement against Islam and so harsh against the Muslims?

    Our dear Muslim brothers and sisters, indeed the supplication (dua) is the weapon of the believer and it is authentically narrated that the great sahabi, Ibn Abbas (ra) said regarding Islah that, “It is to give your brother his right and there are four 1) when you see him to smile 2) to give salaam when you come close to him 3) to support him 4) and not to leave him alone.”

    Verily, we are living in strange times when smiling towards your Muslim brother has become a difficult thing and the salaam has become restricted to nationalities and family ties, yet it is never too late to revive these forgotten duties and indeed our brothers are in need of it and indeed our sisters are in need of it.

    Undoubtedly, the world has witnessed those Lions of Islam roaring in the East and the West, struggling against the tyrants in Lal Masjid and Chechnya and Bali and the Xing Xiang province, yet the Ummah cannot afford to lose too many Lions and they are in need of your support and again they are in need of your support.

    It is authentically recorded in at-Tabarani and Bayhaqi that Jaabir ibn Abdillah (ra) narrated that Muhammad (saw) said, “How could Allah bless people who do not ensure the rights of the weak.”

    Dear Muslim brothers and sisters, Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad is indeed in a weak situation and he is needy for your support and he is needy for your help, and we ask you to make dua for him and we ask you again to make dua against those who wish to harm him; even if you differ with him we say that despite our differences it should never prevent us from uniting against a common enemy who have once again gathered their wolves around a group of 83 Muslims whose only crime was to believe in Allah (SWT) as their Lord.

    Finally, to the disbelievers at war with Islam and the Muslims we say that you will never be victorious over a nation who seeks death (in the Way of Allah (SWT)) with every second that passes, and who are not deterred by the many casualties they suffer in pursuit of their divine goal (Ridwaan ullah) and moreover that the prophecies of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) will never pass except that they will be fulfilled, and verily Rome is waiting, and Britain is waiting, and the White House is waiting.

  10. Happy to Be Gone says:

    Uh… oooooookay.

  11. Marc Manley says:

    I would offer only some words advice: avoid back-biting. Perhaps some of the charges and allegations against Mahdi Bray can be substantiated but they are not substantiated by simply stating them here. And we should all be familiar with the hadith in which the Prophet [s] stipulates that even if what you say is true, it constitutes as back-biting. I am aware of the loop hole for those that may go into business or some type of contract but I think these issues should be taken to leaders and figures of authority in our communities and let them or demand that they address them. This will help to ensure that no one’s soul is in danger of back-biting and that such activities, if help to be true, can be dealt with systematically by authorities in our community.

  12. Marc Manley says:

    I don’t know why I even try to type any more…

    This will help to ensure that no one’s soul is in danger of back-biting and that such activities, if help to be true, can be dealt with systematically by authorities in our community.

    Should read: This will help to ensure that no one’s soul is in danger of back-biting and that such activities, if held to be true, can be dealt with systematically by authorities in our community.

  13. Umm Ismail says:

    @ Marc Manley

    I understand what you are saying but it feels so good to see these people get what was coming to them

  14. Saleem says:

    Hmmm, what leaders are we talking about.. the same ones that pay him.. that lecture beside him… that meet in public and private with him, that do fund raisers with him?

    He is honorable enough to trust and believe when most of them have know him for years? I would find it very hard to believe that NO one knew at least some or all of this yet still sit and pray and promote the brother in leadership roles.

    I’m just saying

  15. Shaheed K says:

    @ Saleem

    They are all a bunch of hustlers and we are suckers

  16. Happy to Be Gone says:

    @Shaheed – that’s it in a nutshell.

    You know if he came correct and was like “I used to be a criminal, snorting cocaine off of hooker’s a$$es and I struggled and now I’m Muslim, etc” that would be one thing. But it’s the STRAIGHT UP LIES of the MAS and the rest of these self appointed leaders that pisses people off. Didn’t the prophet say to be wary of people who chase leadership positions? Isn’t that what EVERY single one of these jokers has done? That should tell us something about them right there.

  17. @ Marc Manley

    Thanks for the advice brother, I just wonder where that admonition was when these people attacked my character last year.

  18. @ Abdur-Rahman
    I’ll speak for Marc, since I am well aware of his position. Marc is consistent in his stance about slander and fitnah in the blogosphere.

    I was the one that made him aware of this recent post. Had it not been for me this would probably have gone under his radar. Likewise when he commented on a post last year, in which you blasted every national Muslim organization, I brought it to his attention. I brought it to his attention because I was concerned that the fitnah that would ensue would take away from some of the positive developments that were going on in the Black American Muslim blogosphere.

    He was not aware of all the fitnah that ensued and the fact that you were slandered. He’s not a regular reader of your blog nor is he a regular reader of the blog where your name was dragged in the mud. Plus, some of that stuff was pulled down from said blog after a respected imam got involved to defend your honor and try to keep the situation from escalating into violence. I know you are mad that people didn’t get your back. At least people didn’t get your back in the way you wanted them to. But people did step in to defend your honor and even to mediate. I’m not saying that because anybody deserves to be patted on the back. But I don’t think its fair to mischaracterize our response to your drama or insinuate that we have a double standard.

  19. Yahya Hamidullah says:

    Becoming Muslim is much like becoming a “made man” in the mafia. You are inducted into a global brotherhood that has certain privileges and responsibilities. There is an oath (the shahaadah) to be true to the Muslims no matter what and a code of silence against the kufaar. The shahaadah has certain ramifications and meanings for the person taking that oath and it is clear that many do not understand that. Betraying the Muslims is a betrayal of the shahaadah and hence an act of kufr.

  20. Marc Manley says:

    I just wonder where that admonition was when these people attacked my character last year.

    Well, for one, I was not aware of the exact incident you speak of. While I do write my own blog, you’ll notice that my posts are not frequent and as my wife said, if it had not been for her, I would not have known about it. Had I known, I would have defended you, or as I’ve been saying, the adab of the Prophet [s], who tolerated slander against his own wife [which I have to admit, I couldn't withstand]. I am less interested in defending individuals than I am fundamental principles of character. I cannot put on a red cape and fly around, defending all wrongs with my words. Rather, if I come across something that I think is damaging to someone’s soul, I will leave some words of advice. But, as the hadith goes: if you see something wrong, change it with your hand, your tongue, or dislike it with your heart. I tried using my tongue but maybe I’ll have to take my thoughts elsewhere concerning the Internet.

    In following this line of thought, I see more and more how the Internet is becoming a serious fitnah for Muslims, an arena where they can feel free to cast off the etiquette of their religion and damage other people’s reputations as well as their own souls. It makes me ponder the validity of continuing my own blog, though I try to analyze serious issues in our community so that we can tackle them without having to assassinate people’s character.

    Perhaps this will suffice as a reason I “wasn’t there for you” last year.

  21. Muhammad Amin says:

    Backbiting is permissible when a person is harmful to the community and in the case of the string of people in the past few weeks, I don’t see any injustice that has been done.

  22. Marc Manley says:

    On second thought, scrap those comments. I don’t know you but thought to offer some sound advice as you seemed upset. Instead, you have now implicated me in “not supporting you”. You’re right. I don’t. Mainly because I don’t know you from Adam. So consider this a tenure of my admonition. With a title like “A Singluar Voice” you’d think you’d have been more prepared to go it alone.

    Best of luck…

  23. Happy to Be Gone says:

    The brotherhood of the umma is astounding… I love it when people use the internet to decry the ‘fitnah’ of the internet.

    @MarcManley -

    In following this line of thought, I see more and more how the Internet is becoming a serious fitnah for Muslims, an arena where they can feel free to cast off the etiquette of their religion and damage other people’s reputations as well as their own souls.

    You know what? Khalid Yasin, Dawud Adib, Jamil Amin, the Killadelphia crews, the sufis mentioned on that other blog – they didn’t need the internet to ruin people’s lives and yes, some people’s Islam. So please, don’t blame the internet when dirty business has been going on in this community, people’s lives being ruined without the ‘fitnah of the internet’ that you happen to be participating in.

    Also, I don’t see this as an African American Muslim thing, or that the black Muslim bloggers need to bond together because no one else is going to have your backs. I see it as people who are willing to look at the unvarnished truth vs. people who want to live in Muslim la-la land. Singular Voice opened my eyes up to stuff that was going on right in front of my face, suspicions I had but couldn’t put a name to, and he’s singular because no one else is willing to do this and take the heat. They bleat about adab instead.

  24. Khadija says:

    @Happy to Be Gone:

    You said, “I see it as people who are willing to look at the unvarnished truth vs. people who want to live in Muslim la-la land. Singular Voice opened my eyes up to stuff that was going on right in front of my face, suspicions I had but couldn’t put a name to, and he’s singular because no one else is willing to do this and take the heat. They bleat about adab instead.”

    I agree 100% with this statement. I’m not “gone,” but this type of behavior is why I stay FAR AWAY from the ummah.

    Marc said, “With a title like “A Singluar Voice” you’d think you’d have been more prepared to go it alone.”

    But any Muslim who’s speaking out about dangerous criminals who are causing GREAT harm to the ummah shouldn’t have to “go it alone” among other MUSLIMS.

    Aren’t we all supposed to be supporting justice? Aren’t we ALL supposed to do what we can to have the justice-seeker’s back?

    It’s incredible to see so many who seem to have been so silent about LIFE & DEATH issues only rousing themselves to speak of adab.

    In terms of the “I didn’t know about ________ particular crime” justification: Those of us with eyes to see and ears to hear can tell that there are GRAVE problems within the BAM ummah. Anyone who pays the slightest bit of attention can see the family disentegration, the unravelling of various flocks, and the resulting lack of sustained, stable growth.

    So, even though we might not have known (and of course, everybody claims not to have known about __________ after things are exposed, or other things happen like the beheading in New York) details of particular crimes, we knew there was an overall problem with our ummah. A problem that most of us have deliberately chosen to remain silent about.

    As far as I’m concerned, Bro. Abdur-Rahman has exercised great restraint in NOT exposing all who knew about these criminals and remained silent. He’s shown great restraint in not “going off” on the Islamically-learned fools among us who mostly use their platforms (be they blogs or books, etc.) to speak of trivialities while ongoing, long-term atrocities are being committed in our collective midst.

    Including those who come to lecture him about adab while he’s literally risking his life on the front lines of seeking justice. I know that I probably wouldn’t have that kind of restraint in his position.

  25. Marc Manley says:

    @all,

    Thank you for your time. I wish you success with these endeavors,

  26. With all due respect Khadijah, I have to disagree with your characterization of Marc’s advice as lecturing. He was suggesting a better way of going about addressing these issues rather than cussing and name calling. Also, since we have an entire surah about backbiting, I also worry about my own role in addressing these issues.

    We all know that our Muslim leaders need to be held accountable and that we need to move beyond self styled leaders who bring no skill sets except their cult of personality. But there is a difference between trying to clean house and name calling and slander. Some of us in the blogosphere walk a fine line. Sure, a lot of us are angry by what has been allowed to go on for so long. The question is, do the ends justify the means? If we feel so comfortable airing other people’s dirty laundry, we shouldn’t be surprised when the intimate details of our past sins surface on the internet. And perhaps they will be mixed up with some fabrications, as what has happened to Abdur Rahman.

    Before some of us started blogging, we didn’t consider Islamic ethics in our addressing issues. Over time, I have thought and rethought my rules of engagement. While I’m glad that Muslims are concerned with cleaning house, I am worried that we are jeopardizing ourselves by stepping into backbiting.

    We are trying to implement the example that was laid out for us in the sunnah of our Prophet. If you read the seerah, it was clear that there were hypocrites in the Muslim community. But what lesson have we learned from how the Prophet and the Sahaba dealt with them. For example, Muhammad gave Abu Bakr a list of all the hypocrites. And Umar got mad cause Abu Bakr didn’t give him the list. There was hikmah in Abu Bakr not giving Umar the list. So, are we saying we are better than him? Can we out all the hypocrites today? Can we even route all hypocrisy in ourselves?

    Adab may not be important to you, but slander is considered committing a major sin, and it does concern me. Just because we have different rules of engagement and refrain from backbiting and slander in our blogs, don’t ever get it twisted that we tolerate nonsense and corruption in our personal and community life.

    I’m going to take the conversation offline. If anybody has any questions and concerns, feel free to email me.

  27. Khadija says:

    Respectfully Margari,

    I’ll sum it up:

    If I have to choose between having slander (partial or full) and backbiting, and a woman being beheaded in part because of people’s concerns about adab, I’ll choose the slander and backbiting.

    If I have to choose between having slander (partial or full) and backbiting, and droves of Muslimahs being subjected to sexual and domestic abuse, I’ll choose the slander and backbiting.

    I, for one, would rather have slander and backbiting on my hands (to answer for) as opposed to blood.

    One can legitimately question how it came to be that these are the options. It really shouldn’t have to come down to this. But it has. All I can see is that whatever quiet efforts that have been made in compliance with adab considerations have failed. Miserably. The long-term crimes that are still in progress within our ummah are outlandish.

    Ultimately, those who are so piously concerned with adab are creating a situation similar to the Catholic Church and its legion of pedophile priests. The Catholic hierarchy was also unable and more importantly, unwilling, to effectively deal with the criminals in their midst. Apparently, the Catholic hierarchy was more concerned about reputations and creating a scandal than children’s safety.

    I can see now that, similar to the situation with the Catholic Church, it will require outside intervention in the form of law enforcement and law suits to clean up our ummah. And if we allow the situation to escalate by persisting in ineffective “adab-centric” solutions, perhaps the federal government will see fit to start characterizing our masjids as “Rackateer Influenced Corrupt Organizations” under RICO statutes and shut them down just like the mob-influenced businesses. It has gotten to a point that it’s hard to tell the difference between these various corrupt organizations.

    Wa Salaam.

  28. Dawud Adib says:

    I for one think that it is good for Islam that everyone remains silent on all of this. Let’s stop all this ‘outing’ insha Allah

    sincerely,
    Aboo Tasneem

    PS: Dawud Adib-style 2009!!!

  29. @ Margari Aziza

    First of all, If I were sensitive to what you are calling “intimate details of our past sins” I wouldn’t even have started this blog. Margari to be quite honest, I’m very disappointed with you and your husband’s response to all of this madness. I have never, as you say, “aired people’s dirty laundry”. To even characterize it that way is in itself a kind of denial. It is also an injustice.”Dirty laundry” connotes someone’s private, personel failings, not the CRIMES being committed by these dangerous, socio-pathic individuals who are reeking havoc in the lives of innocent people (especially women). And that is all aside from the lies, deceit, and subversive activities of the Immigrant Muslim Syndicate.

    I am not sensitive about ANYTHING that is in the public record of my life, nor was that the source of my ire last year. I was an Imam for a number of years with a real congregation and a real masjid. I taught aqeedah, figh, and Arabic (which I studied at the university level). I sold tapes of my classes and khutbahs, and many people in the Washington, DC area bought them and still have them in their homes. What is on the public record is fair game AND I HAVE NO SENSITIVITY ABOUT THAT WHAT-SO-EVER. It is an injustice to me to make it appear as if I am some how squeamish about my career as a Muslim, or even a Muslim leader (which I was) or worst still, to use that as a kind of pretext for not supporting me in attempting to open the eyes of people in order that they not be hurt. I’m very disappointed that you went there.

    I’m especially disappointed because you of all people have personal knowledge of the morally reprobate character of at least one of the people involved in last year’s smear campaign, when they attempted to destroy my good name and work. I, like everyone else, have my faults, but it was not any so-called “sins” I’ve committed which caused my vexation, but rather, the pack of vicious and scurrilous lies leveled against me by Wrighty “Mahdi” Bray and his rotten crew, who are themselves the REAL CRIMINALS AND CON MEN! And after I challenged them to produce the the proof for their slander they produced nothing!

    Sister Margari, perhaps you have not seen with your own eyes the carnage that these criminals are capable of. When I was an Imam I knew a sister who had been pistol whipped by her husband. I would have to wake up in the middle of the night and go pick up these battered women (lips bloodied and eyes darkened) and take them to a relative’s house for protection. On another occasion, I and four other brothers had to go physically chase another brother down in a brook in South-East Washington because he had beaten the hell out of his wife and stolen her savings. I have gone to court with sisters who were victims of some of the worst brutality imaginable at the hands of their husbands. One of these sisters was beaten like a dog and punched in the stomach while she was pregnant, all because she insisted her husband stop watching pornography in the house.

    After he left her with several children and refused to pay his child support, I had to accompany her to court where upon her former husband called her a “bitch” and tried to snatch her hijab off her head. Dressed in his Salafi best, miswak and all, he continued to berate her by calling her a “kafir” for taking him to the “kuffar” court! Needless to say, she left Islam a long time ago. I saw her on 16th St. here in DC about a month ago and she looked happy and content with her new man and her new faith, Buddhism.

    The point in all of the above is that I know shariah very well. I know all of the rulings about husn zhun (believeing the best about Muslims) and can recite the ayats by heart, and equally so about slander and back-biting. The real problem here is that THESE CRIMINALS KNOW THIS STUFF AS WELL, and use it to shield not merely “sins” (as you say) but outright crimes! And I have yet to see all those Imams out there so busy SELLING THEIR DAMN “INSTITUTE PROGRAMS” come forward and build this shariah court that you and Marc keep referring to. When you say take it to “respected elders and leaders in the community” who exactly are you talking about? Hamza? Sherman? Zaid? Here’s an idea; instead of them being out there hawking their worthless seminars, why don’t they immediately go to work establishing some kind of structure to address this wanton criminality in the ummah.

    I’ll leave you with this one. Imam Siraj Wahhaj himself, who was born and raised in Brooklyn and knows the entire criminal history of Khalid Yasin, and who told me himself that “he’s a bad guy”, actually helped to rehabilitate his reputation and facilitate his many frauds by allowing him to teach classes and give khutbahs at his masjid (At Taqwa)!! When I saw him last summer at the congressional Black Caucus Weekend, he was more upset with my criticism of him than with the crime wave Khalid Yasin has been on. That is exactly what I am talking about. And since the righteous, pious system that you and Marc keep talking about, the one that places adab over the life blood of real people, doesn’t exist anywhere, then we will, with conviction, continue to expose these pieces of shit for what they are (not sorry for the poor adab).

  30. Mauri Saalakhan says:

    Hey wait a minute, I’m confused here! What’s wrong with wacking your pregnant wife in the stomach? Just use an open hand.

  31. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    I do not understand this concern with: non hostile non-Muslims; hostile non-Muslims, innocent and unsuspecting Muslims; and prospective Muslims being aware of the dysfunction in both the BAM and IMM communities.

    Wake up people!!!

    GET REAL!!!

    * Hostile non-Muslims were on anti-Muslim, and anti-Islamic campaigns PRIOR to ARM’s blog ( and frankly the majority of the Muslim bloggers) and they will continue to be rather he is blogging or not.

    This is why I told you ( ARM) to keep doing what you are doing, and focus on your goal. Do not allow concerns about our perception to distract you from pursuing justice. You can not CONTROL any one unless they ALLOW you to.
    The fact the we are so dam worried about perception just proves how weak and powerless both the BAM and IMM communities are.

    * non hostile non-Muslims are NOT dummies people–especially those in professions in which they are mandated reporters? Hello?

    We may think we are managing our problems internally but the truth is the dysfunctional is so severe–the criminal activity is so severe, that outsiders are quite aware of what’s going on.

    We were being watched LONG -LONG -LONG before there was an Abdur Rahman Muhammad–that includes the NOI too.

    * Prospective Muslims ( especially children) have a right to know exactly what they are getting to their self into theologically, politically, and socially before converting to Islam–OMITTING this information is lying.

    As for “smearing people” and worrying about ones personal life showing up on the internet:

    Any one can request a FOIA and any one can conduct background checks. Divorce records, land records, Child protective service registry, etc are public information.

    Abdur Rahman,

    Let me tell you why I support this function of your website:

    By bringing awareness to various issues in both the BAM and IMM community you give all of the groups of people ( particularly black women and children) a CHANCE to make a decision. It’s called empowerment. Knowledge is power!

    Salaam

  32. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    Abdur Rahman

    See:

    While we thank God that no attack like that of 9/11 has recurred, anti-Islamic opinion has been consistently rising in the last six years in the United States. Today, a majority of our neighbors think very negatively of Islam and Muslims[1] and 22 percent don’t even want a Muslim as their neighbor. Thirty-nine percent of respondents of a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll said they favored requiring Muslims, including U.S. citizens, to carry a special ID.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    Due to this pressure and widespread Islamophobia, Muslim wages in America have consequently gone down by 10% according to the University of Illinois and Columbia University. Seventy-six percent of all young Arab-Americans surveyed in July 2007 by Zogby International say they have been personally discriminated against.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    This explains why Muslim social service providers are finding higher levels of domestic violence and divorce in the community. And a Yale University mental health survey has determined that 50 percent of all Arab-Americans surveyed were found to have clinical symptoms of depression.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    A Muslim-run shelter in Chicago had to turn away 647 women and children in 2007 since they did not have enough space available.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    *** To do the same thing over, and over again while expecting a new result is basically insanity. Our community has focused on adab, sheriah, arabic, etc for decades and look at the results? It’s time for a new approach. Its’ time for new leadership. It’s time for new Imams. It’s time for a new Islam. We need a REVOLUTION.

    Salaam

  33. Go Khadija!! says:

    ACTION: No one “backbites” Mo Hassan and the community has good adab in spite of some knowing that he is a wife abuser

    RESULT: He marries three times while abusing all three and kills the last one

    Excellent point Khadija!! Shows how hollow these cries to stop the exposes are because they are “backbiting”.

  34. @ Khadijah

    God bless you. You break it down better than anyone I know.

  35. @ Sister Seeking

    While you have not always agreed with me, you have always supported the work of this blog for which I am very grateful.

  36. Hamza 21 says:

    I have read and reread this post several times today & yesterday and I can’t yet find a answer to what’s purpose of this post.It seems nothing more than rant.

    As Muslims and as thinking people in general we should believe in and execute purposeful action. Meaning our actions are done with the intent to fulfill a purpose to end up a with a specific result.What’s the purpose of this post and what is result you intended to occur?

    In this piece you wrote:

    Let me make this as plain as I possibly can so that no one misunderstands what I am saying: Mahdi Bray is a nasty, criminal, low life PIECE OF SHIT;

    Which pretty much sums up the content of this piece.Telling world how evil Bray is. But as a final note you wrote:

    It’s time for decent, honest, sober-minded people to wake up and kick the criminals out, for failure to do so will only mean they get what they deserve .

    So is the second quote the purpose of this piece or first one? It seems it’s former not the latter. If you’re intent was to rant against how evil Bray is or was you have succeeded but if your intent was to somehow tell ” decent, honest, sober-minded people to wake up and kick the criminals out” then you have not succeeded.

    Your action (writing this post) with the purpose (“decent people waking up”) doesn’t end in the result (kicking criminals out”) like you believed it would.

    For me doing things just do thing doesn’t interest me. If I know my actions don’t lead to the result I’m want. I’d rather spend more time reflecting,thinking what actions best achieve the end result I desire. Which what the Prophet did. As well as all successful people have done through the ages.

  37. Happy to Be Gone says:

    ~~When you say take it to “respected elders and leaders in the community” who exactly are you talking about? Hamza? Sherman? Zaid? Here’s an idea; instead of them being out there hawking their worthless seminars, why don’t they immediately go to work establishing some kind of structure to address this wanton criminality in the ummah.~~

    Let us not forget something here too. Like you mention Imam Siraj Wahaj bringing Khalid Yasin in to do stuff after he knew how corrupt this guy was, fact of the matter – FACT of the matter – is that it is people like Imam Siraj, Hamza Yusuf, Zaid Shakir, who are basically not corrupt I think who introduced a lot of these charlatans to the Muslim community to begin with!!! I think the wool was pulled over their eyes as well as anyone, but when you go around saying this person is a great shaykh and that guy’s a great teacher, and then you find out later he isn’t, don’t you have a responsible to the so-called ‘ummi’ Muslims who you say require qualified leadership to TELL us about what they’re really like? Instead, these guys have sat back in their homes that other Muslims gave to them, and watched as people have struggled to get closer to Allaah and learn their deen by following people like Yasin or Adib, Keller or Yaqoubi.

  38. Blakoak777 says:

    ASA,
    You know, I’m not sure that any insights from me would help the conversation on this topic; so I humbly submit to you the words of Muhammed the Prophet (PBUH) as a means of addressing some extremely critical issues that are present in this “jahil” state of existance that we find ourselves. Upon reading this sound advice from our Prophet (PBUH) let us EXHALE, PAUSE, AND DEEPLY REFLECT on what we are doing to ourselves and each other.

    Salim reported on the authority of his father that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: A Muslim is the brother of a fellow-Muslim. He should neither commit oppression upon him nor ruin him, and he who meets the need of a brother, Allah would meet his needs, and he who relieved a Muslim from hardship Allah would relieve him from the hardships to which he would be put on the Day of Resurrection, and he who did not expose (the follies of a Muslim) Allah would conceal his follies on the Day of Resurrection.

    ——————————————————————————–
    Book 32, Number 6251:
    Abu Huraira.reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do you know who is poor? They (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) said: A poor man amongst us is one who has neither dirham with him nor wealth. He (the Holy Prophet) said: The poor of my Umma would be he who would come on the Day of Resurrecton with prayers and fasts and Zakat but (he would find himself bankrupt on that day as he would have exhausted his funds of virtues) since he hurled abuses upon others, brought calumny against others and unlawfully consumed the wealth of others and shed the blood of others and beat others, and his virtues would be credited to the account of one (who suffered at his hand). And if his good deeds fall short to clear the account, then his sins would be entered in (his account) and he would be thrown in the Hell-Fire.

    Jabir b. Abdullah reported that two young men, one from the Muhajirin (emigrants) and the other one from the Angr (helpers) fell into dispute and the Muhajir called his fellow Muhajirin, and the Ansari (the helper) called the Ansar (for help). In the meanwhile, Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) came there and said: What is this, the proclamation of the days of jahiliya (ignorance)? They said: Allah’s Messenger, there is nothing serious. The two young men fell into dispute and the one struck at the back of the other. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Well, a person should help his brother whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed. If he is the oppressor he should prevent him from doing it, for that is his help; and if he is the oppressed he should be helped (against oppression).

    ——————————————————————————–
    Book 32, Number 6255:
    Jabir b. Abdullah reported: We were along with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) in an expedition that a person from amongst the emigrants struck at the back of a person from the Ansir. The Ansiri said: O Ansar! And the Muhijir said: O Emigrants! Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: What are these proclamations of the Days of Ignorance ? They said: Allah’s Messenger, a person from the emigrants struck at the back of an Ansari, whereupon he said: It is something disgusting. ‘Abdullah b. Ubayy heard it and said: They have indeed done it. By Allah, when we would return to Medina the respectable amongst them (the Ansar) would turn away the mean (the emigrants). Thereupon ‘Umar said: Permit me so that I should strike the neck of this hypocrite. But he (the Holy Prophet) said: Leave him, the people may not say that Muhammad kills his companions.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this and reflect DEEPLY on these words.

  39. Hassan Abul Hussein says:

    The purpose of these posts is to show everyone that we are completely surrounded by criminals who are taking advantage of us

  40. Khadija says:

    Hassan Abul Hussein said, “The purpose of these posts is to show everyone that we are completely surrounded by criminals who are taking advantage of us”

    We are ALSO surrounded by the criminals’ enablers.

    Wa Salaam.

  41. Sabir says:

    Do you have anything positive to say about anybody?

  42. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    “Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Well, a person should help his brother whether he is an oppressor or an oppressed. If he is the oppressor he should prevent him from doing it, for that is his help; and if he is the oppressed he should be helped (against oppression). ” Black Oak 777

    Brother, it is VERY apparent that the MAJORITY of ALL Muslims are stuck in some sort of trance, that has paralyzed their ability to exercise sound judgement. It is very apparent that the majority of us have distorted thinking, and are so far away from reality that tragedy of huge proportions is going to half to transpire in order to SNAP people out of it. So be it.

    There is a HUGE imbalance in our community when it comes to the latter part of this hadith I outlined. There is an excessive preoccupation with helping out criminals, and their enablers instead of pursuing justice–especially for the deserving folk.

    Where is the out rage for the 12year old Muslim girl who was told to give her male Muslim relative “700 excuses” for being sexually assaulted? Where is the out rage for the 7 year old boy who was “spanked” to death by his mentally unbalanced mother but was told “paradise is at her feet”?

    Oh no. Instead our first step is reach out to a bunch of convicts. It’s not my job to rehabilitate people who made poor life style choices. Instead of focusing on healing, and empowering victims; instead of focusing on creating a functional and well equipped infrastructure; and instead of addressing the grieveances ethnic communities have with one another–we are steadily focused on some deranged man or woman who is a crimminal…

    U.N.I.T.Y.

    Here we are in a la la land meanwhile:

    ‘The concept of unity is obsolete’ By Adam Makary
    As Arab leaders gather in Qatar for the 21st summit of the League of Arab States, many in the region say the organisation may have outlived its usefulness.
    From Egypt to Bahrain, young Arabs tell Al Jazeera they have seen its influence on regional affairs wane since Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
    They say they are worried the league is unable to address the concerns and aspirations of Arabs.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/03/200931912375780947.html

    Any horror story we can’t stomach we want to dismiss as an isolated case meanwhile:

    While we thank God that no attack like that of 9/11 has recurred, anti-Islamic opinion has been consistently rising in the last six years in the United States. Today, a majority of our neighbors think very negatively of Islam and Muslims[1] and 22 percent don’t even want a Muslim as their neighbor. Thirty-nine percent of respondents of a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll said they favored requiring Muslims, including U.S. citizens, to carry a special ID.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    Due to this pressure and widespread Islamophobia, Muslim wages in America have consequently gone down by 10% according to the University of Illinois and Columbia University. Seventy-six percent of all young Arab-Americans surveyed in July 2007 by Zogby International say they have been personally discriminated against.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    This explains why Muslim social service providers are finding higher levels of domestic violence and divorce in the community. And a Yale University mental health survey has determined that 50 percent of all Arab-Americans surveyed were found to have clinical symptoms of depression.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    A Muslim-run shelter in Chicago had to turn away 647 women and children in 2007 since they did not have enough space available.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    To do the same thing over and over while expecting a new result is insanity. Our community has focused on adab, sheriah, and Arabic for decades. We need a new approach. We need new leadership. We need new mosques. We need a new Islam. We need a REVOULTION.

    Salaam

  43. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    7

  44. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    It is very clear to me that many of us are in a trance– a common condition of people in cults and movements. It is very clear to me that our thinking is distorted, and we lack the ability to exercise sound judgment. Where is the out rage over how scripture, and commands have been abused? What about the 11 year old Muslim girl who has been taught to “give her fellow believers excuses” and is terrified to report daily sexual assault? What about the 7 year old boy who has been taught “paradise is at your mothers feet” when HIS mother has spanked the child nearly to death? Oh. I get it. The outrage happens after a child protective service worker–or worse yet in the case of one Muslim school here in Northern Virginia–when a journalist finds out.

    Nobody owes anyone anything. It is not my responsibility to rehabilitate a man or woman who made poor life decisions. Based off all that has been aired out, the Muslim community truly has no business in even trying to help these people. We lack sound judgment and have no way to protect other people from their predator behavior. Thanks to all their enablers, and supporters–these criminals, and predators now have a sense of entitlement–talk about turning the halal harram and the harram halal–how’s that one for you?

    We really are in “ la la” land. Here we are calling for “unity” and demonizing those who see beneath the surface of that call, meanwhile this occurring:

    As Arab leaders gather in Qatar for the 21st summit of the League of Arab States, many in the region say the organization may have outlived its usefulness.
    From Egypt to Bahrain, young Arabs tell Al Jazeera they have seen its influence on regional affairs wane since Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in 1990.
    They say they are worried the league is unable to address the concerns and aspirations of Arabs.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/03/200931912375780947.html

    We are real quick to silence, shun, and slander VICTIMS of the various movements in our community, meanwhile this is occurring:

    While we thank God that no attack like that of 9/11 has recurred, anti-Islamic opinion has been consistently rising in the last six years in the United States. Today, a majority of our neighbors think very negatively of Islam and Muslims[1] and 22 percent don’t even want a Muslim as their neighbor. Thirty-nine percent of respondents of a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll said they favored requiring Muslims, including U.S. citizens, to carry a special ID.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    Due to this pressure and widespread Islamophobia, Muslim wages in America have consequently gone down by 10% according to the University of Illinois and Columbia University. Seventy-six percent of all young Arab-Americans surveyed in July 2007 by Zogby International say they have been personally discriminated against.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    This explains why Muslim social service providers are finding higher levels of domestic violence and divorce in the community. And a Yale University mental health survey has determined that 50 percent of all Arab-Americans surveyed were found to have clinical symptoms of depression.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    A Muslim-run shelter in Chicago had to turn away 647 women and children in 2007 since they did not have enough space available.

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/socialservice/violenceimamwest.asp

    To do the same thing over and over while expecting a new result is insanity. Our community has focused on adab, sheriah, and Arabic for decades. We need a new approach. We need new leadership. We need new mosques. We need a new Islam. We need a REVOULTION.

    Salaam

  45. Kwame Madden says:

    Are you telling me that Mahdi Bray didn’t work in the civil rights movement? Wow, I guess we BAM’s have been fooled again by false credentials. This is a problem. Why can’t brothers just tell the truth about there backgrounds instead of presenting a false picture of themselves.

  46. Saleem says:

    Mahdi Bray WAS NOT a civil rights leader on the level that he claims to have been. You can go ask any of the pioneers of the civil rights movement and none of them will claim him as their own in the struggle. He was then as he is now an opportunist, and I’m not sure if that’s such a bad thing. Men are to go in search of bounty and he found it in the Muslim activist movement. He was ran out of the general WD and BAM community and the immigrant community welcomed him with open arms but they knew what he was known for and if they didn’t; then they certainly found out what he is capable of after all his years of service to them. Yet, AMC, MAS, MASFF, Dar Hijrah, ADAMS, MCC, & CCOMO, have decided long ago that he brings more positives than negatives. So why does it really matter to us whom they allow themselves to sit and eat dinner with as long as he isn’t physically hurting people? Now, he may be robbing people and taking a %’s from fundraisers, and his own organizations but they know that and again its not violent, so why press the issue? He is NOT on the level of some of these other buffoons and short of having sex with a little boy I suspect that every person you expose will still find plenty in the ummah to rally behind them.

    Woman and children exposure to danger has never been a serious issue for the ummah unless it involved non-Muslims bring them harm.

    I guess this lets sisters pass on proof to other sisters who might think that these guys are good to marry, so yeah…. I see the point in that. I certainly know plenty of sisters who would have loved if someone kept it real with them about a brother but we can’t protect everyone and everything. Some will still fall through the tracks and some woman no matter what you say will still jump off the cliff with these fools with a smile on their faces. Heck, Mahdi married 4 women and I’m sure he can pick up a few more.

    Even still, I think you should just stick with the verbal and physical domestic violence types and away from the Mahdi Bray’s of the world. He has done a lot of good than bad and his issues were 20 years ago. He could still have issues and Allah SWT knows best but should we off his head now or wait to find out after the fact? His issues are not violent in nature but are the struggle of his own nafs and haven’t we all suffered at various levels with that even if it hasn’t been as bad as his struggles? Now, he is dead wrong for presenting a false narrative of himself but lets face it we are very judgmental people and the immigrants are even more so. It is very hard to break into the circle and even harder to break into leadership so I would understand why he hasn’t had the courage to present himself as he truly is.

    I know he slandered you and I know the information wasn’t originally posted by you. It was only a matter of time before it was posted and honestly as hard as he strives for media attention I’m surprised it took this long. However, brother the high road for this particular base might have been better because he posses no immediate threat like the others do and he tries to keep his public life on the political theater instead of lecturing youth of moral virtue.

  47. Sister Seeking, Miriam, Mary Ann says:

    WOW! JUST WOW!

    I can’t believe how warped and distorted our thinking has become as Muslims…

    It’s like some of us are in some type of a trance or something…

    How can some one claim to be fighting evil, and oppression–yet at the same time be evil, and abusive themselves? Doesn’t that cancel out something? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

    As for being “judgemental” how can anyone go through life with out experiencing a great deal of term oil if they don’t think things through, and make a judgement?

    How many of us if we were not Muslim associate with people who are predators, criminals, wife beaters, and child abusers? What would our families think of us? What would be our parents and grand parents reaction?

    Well, one thing is for sure: you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

    Salaam

  48. Hajji Muhammad says:

    Personally, I believe anyone who has committed crimes and or lived the life knows the true trans-formative power of the Quran and the life of the Prophet (SAW). That said, let me point out that
    Mr. Wright Bray calls himself “Imam Mahdi” Bray. Now the subjective game that is being played needs to be exposed since he is not an Imam and he is Mahdi. This all sounds slick just as previously we had another impostor who assumed the same name claiming he was a descendant of the Mahdi and the son of Imam al-Haadi.
    The only reason he as well as some others enjoy their present positions is not due to their eloquence and or learning or because they are social activists? On the contrary, those foreign elements who actually control the organizations to which they belong have put them out front because they can’t bear the Government scrutiny and so they can claim to be loyal participants in the American Muslim Community? It’s the same old game you’re being manipulated by those who have been at it longer than you. Drop the name Bray.

  49. A. Graige Johnson says:

    I knew a “Wright Bray, IV, from Nirfolk, Va. That Wright Bray worked for the Model Cities Program during the early 70′s. He was married to a beautiful girl from Lamberts Point name Margie. She died in an auto accident somewhere near 1973. Wright Bray was a gifted musician, specializing in keyboards. If he’s not able to play, he’s obviously very ill, mentally.
    I’d like to see Wright Bray today, because he’s a person worth rescuing. He probably got really crazy when Hilton Felton passed away. Of course, I have a lot of theories, many that can easily be confirmed.

    • A. Graige Johnson says:

      I’m hopeful that Wright Bray, IV, if he is one and the same, will reach out to me if he reads my comments. He use to play in a local band here with a guy names Adan. I forget the name of the band. Wright was the leader of the band as well as the keyboard player. His knowledge and taste in music I’d consider broad.
      The previous comments about him being a con man and slicker are plausible, because life for a black man who saw the 60′s with one eye open is often complicated. Like a Muslim version of a jack leg Christian preacher. Islam has its share of fake and/or false carriers of its true teachings, similar to other teachings. I never knew that man, even though I believe the previous author is telling the truth.

  50. Abdullaah al-Amkreeki says:

    Mahdi always came off as fake… and he has been racist against Muslims of European descent.. his conversion story rang so hollow “I wanted justice” (and some concocted story about his father being lynched) …especially when he later flipped out and threw a temper tantrum on air (since I accidentally let his mic on) and insisted that “either he goes or I go!” …glad to know all my intuitions were 100% correct…

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