Salafi Imam: We Must BELIEVE Arabs are “Master Race”

Posted: February 19, 2008 in Uncategorized
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In part five of my series Why Blackamerican Muslims Don’t Stand For Justice, I mentioned the racist beliefs held and taught by one of the major leaders of the 1990’s Salafi Movement (cult), Imam Abu Usamah Ath-Thahabi (a Blackamerican), that the Arabs are superior to the non-Arabs (or in other words: the Arabs are the “Master Race”)

My purpose here is to show the insidious nature of this movement in promoting the RACIAL superiority of Arabs. And while the Salafis happen to be the only ones brazen (or foolish) enough to openly preach this swill, it is nevertheless a tightly held secret in many classical Islamic texts. These Salafis actually want to give this repugnant teaching the status of religious dogma. Needless to say, Abu Usamah’s email quoted below explains why so many brothers in that movement suffer from inferiority complexes and try to be Arab. This is what he wrote: below the fold

ARABS are BETTER than Non-Arabs…

Alhamdulilah Was Salaatu Was Salaamu ‘Alaa Rasullilah:

Before dealing with this topic, it should be noted that recognized scholars of the Sunnah differed amongst themselves in this issue. Therefore, people should be careful about the way they choose to deal with the person that has an opposing view to his. If a person takes an opposing view to what is correct and his mistake and faulty opinion is due to him simply being human but he made every effort to follow the truth, then clearly this person is not blameworthy!

After offering up the above disclaimer, the acknowledged “difference of opinion” is further along in the piece repudiated on the authority of his Sheikh who further adds quite demagogically that those who refuse to accept this divine “truth” are deviants in religion!

Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was of the opinion that Arabs ARE SUPERIOR (Afdal) than Non-Arabs and he claimed that this was the view that was held by the MAJORITY of the scholars – ‘Al-Jamhoor’- .

He wrote: “And the MAJORITY of scholars are of the opinion that the Arab species is better (Afdal) than the Non-Arab (species) just as the nation of Quraish is better (Afdal) than the Non-Quraishite nations and (just as) the nation of Bani Haashim is better (Afdal) than the Non-Bani Haashim (nations).” Majm’u Al-Fataawa 19/29

He also wrote: “…This was the position of Imam Ahmed (ra) and the MAJORITY of Ahlul ‘Ilm.” Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/421

Also, refer to what he said in Majmu’ Fataawa 27/472.

For great scholars of Ahmed ibn Hanbal and Ibn Taymiyyah’s caliber to advance such racist garbage is truly disheartening, nevertheless Ibn Taymiyyah claims it is the position of the “majority” of Muslim scholars. The question for us becomes; is it? Do the scholars of the large immigrant Muslim organizations like I.S.N.A, Q.S.S., C.A.I.R., M.A.S., I.I.I.T, etc, clandestinely subscribe to this noxious belief? Could this possibly explain why Blackamerican Muslims are treated like second class citizens in every one of these groups? Is there a conspiracy to perfume and camouflage this reeking, ideological excrement just long enough to smuggle it passed unsuspecting and uninitiated Muslims?

Unfortunately, when discussing the issue of the ‘Afdaliyyah’ or superiority of the Arabs over the ‘Ajamees’ (Non-Arabs), many people fail to do justice to this hotly debated topic.

Muslims – including students of knowledge – tend to tenaciously cling to the fringes of the two extremes and they find it extremely difficult to remain fair, just and balanced!

You think? How can one be “fair, just and balanced” when claiming that Arabs are superior to all other races?

On one hand, you have those who go overboard in their love for the Arabs and they brag about being Arabs! They believe Abu Jahl and Abu Lahab were far better and superior than any and all Ajamee Muslims!

When they speak you will find them speaking in a condescending way towards and about those who are Ajamees and they never fail to seize every chance and opportunity to insult people due to the fact they are not Arabs!

They will refuse to marry a woman who is Ajamee and they will never allow an Ajamee to contaminate the pure and sacred blood of the Arab nation by giving one of their woman folk to an Ajamee!

They despise being led by an Ajamee in Salaat and in some cases (like in Sham today) when one of them speaks about a black Ajamee person he refers to him as ‘Abd (without any evil intent in many instances). These people are the Arab nationalist like those of the Iraqi Bathist party.

Ironically enough, there are some Ajamees who are of this opinion! They mistakenly believe being Arab is tantamount to being Muslim and they believe being a Muslim means you must speak English (for example) with a broken Arab accent! They believe Arab woman are all princes or queens and all Non-Arab woman are lowly and unworthy! Some of them shamelessly take pride in lying and claiming that they are of Arab decent!

This statement is completely incomprehensible! Isn’t it this teaching of the superiority of Arabs itself which encourages the very shameful behavior he’s describing? What type of nonsense is this! Conversely, we, who through some cruel twist of fate were excluded from the Arab “Master Race”, are under RELIGIOUS obligationto accept an INFERIOR status vis-a-vis them, an assertion which is manifestly false and a calumny against the Deen. My brother is clearly contradicting himself. He wants to argue that the Arabs are superior even as he berates the brothers who merely aspire to emulate the superiors? If they are TRULY better, then why not aspire to emulate them in every possible way? Is this not the logical conclusion of his line of argument? The irony is that this movement is replete with brothers who take on this aberrant behavior. The following passage will explain precisely why.

On the other hand you have another extreme. Those people who detest and despise all Arabs. Instead of calling them Arabs, they call them Ay-rabs! They hate them with an un-healthy, passionate hate that blinds the heart and defies reason.

They mistrust them in the same way a Muslim would mistrust a Zionist Yehudi (for example).

Some of these people (whose hearts are BLACKENED by falsehood) even are guilty of forming and holding opinions of Kufar and heresy.

For example, they raise the Abyssinian companion Bilal ibn Rabah (ra) to a position of esteem that Islam does not recognize. Some of them may refer to themselves as being Bilaalians (for example) when in fact it would have been more appropriate for them to refer to themselves as ‘Muhammadans’ or ‘Bakriyyans’ or ‘Umariyyans’ or ‘Uthmaaniyans’ (if that were permissible)!

There are some Muslims (?) who (out of ignorance) believe Bilal (ra) taught the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) the Deen of Islam! They even claim that the Prophet (peace be upon him) himself was a black man and that his parents were also black!

I’ve met countless Asian Ajamees (may Allah guide us and them) who originate from the Indo-Pakistani sub-continent who believe the Arabs have absolutely no ‘Diyaanah’ whatsoever and therefore, they refuse to accept the moon citing from any Arab country!

Whether that country is the country of Al-Haramain As-Sharifain or whether it’s Bait-ul-Maqdus in As-Sham!

It doesn’t matter whether the citing of the moon was to determine the start of the fast of Ramadanor to determine its completion. Nor does it matter whether the citing of the moon is to determine the beginning or the end of the Manaasik of Hajj!

If invited to the home of an Arab they would refuse to eat his meat because they believe every Arab eats non-Halal meat or meat that was not slaughtered in the way we – Ma’sharaa Muslimeen – are known to slaughter our meats!

They believe ALL ARABS eat at KFC and purchase their meats and poultry products from the local Sainsbury, Tesco, Morrisons or Pathmart or A&P!

Then we have the overly-political Ajamees who believe the Arabs are pure ‘SELL OUTS’! They believe the Arab leaders have ‘SOLD OUT’ the Khilaafah ‘SOLD OUT’ their people and of course ‘SOLD OUT’ the riches of the Muslim lands!

After detailing at length the attitudes and beliefs of what is admittedly a very crude anti-Arab animus, he continues to frame those attitudes as “the polar opposite” of the slavish imitation outlined above. Having defined the “extremes” thusly, he then situates the “Arab superiority doctrine” as the “balanced middle”. The fallacy of course in this totally bogus construct is that the anti-Arab bigotry that he drones on and on about enjoys no religious sanction, whereas the “Arab superiority” is accorded the full status of Islamic doctrine!

So the two “extremes” he’s laid out are in no way analogous and this is a red herring, intended to impress upon skeptical minds that in choosing to reject his “balanced middle”, one becomes an extremist and exposed to the wrath of Allah! The sum and substance of the brother’s article is below. The emphasis is mine:

Amma ba’du:

Because of a heated discutssion that I witnessed on [link removed].ORG recently (may Allah reward its’ admin.with Khair) I decided to address this issue. The discussion that took place had a little to do with Arab nationalism, Ajamee incompetence and racism.

I felt an urge to make a humble attempt to shed light on the issue of the ‘Afdaliyyah’ of the Arab species over the Non-Arab species in light of the Quran and the Sunnah, and in light of what the Salif of this Ummah held to be correct Insha Allah.

Again, he is promoting this position in spite of stating in the beginning that there was a “difference of opinion” on whether or not Arabs are the Master Race. Here, the “difference of opinion “has been completely dispensed with.

It is my ardent desire to only educate and call to the blessed AQEEDAH of As-Salifiyyah and therefore I would humbly request from the anyone who suffers from Ghaloo or he’s immature or he wants to flex his ‘scholastic muscles’ to refrain from wasting the valuble time of the readers of this forum!

I would also like to advise the people of ‘Ghaloo’ to try their level best to stay away from the two extremes. They should not – intentionally or unintentionally – misunderstand or misinterpret the intent behind the statement:

‘ARABS ARE BETTER THAN NON ARABS’.

Unfortunately, when we – Ma’sharaa Salifiyeen – deal with this issue, it is usually addressed and dealt with from the angle of it simply being a social issue or an issue of Fiqh.

For example:

‘If two people have memorized the same amount of the Quran and their knowledge of the Sunnah is the same and both of them made the Hijrahat the same time, which of the two should lead the prayer? Is it the Arab person or the Ajamee?’

‘Can the Wali of a girl refuse an Ajamee man’s proposal for marriage on the grounds he’s an Ajamee’?

‘The Imaamat-ul-Kubraa of the Muslim nation is it exclusively for the Arabs of Quraish or can Non-Arabs also take up this responsibility of being the Khalifah or Waali of the Muslims’?

All of these questions were posed to the Ulemah of the past and they answered them in the books of sociology like Ibn Khaldun’s (ra) in his book ‘Al-Muqaddamah’ and in the books of Fiqh.

At the same time, I see it as being IMPERITIVE that it be brought to the attention of those who are claiming As-Salifiyyah that the scholars of the Salif use to look at the issue of the ‘Afdaliyyah’ of the Arabs over the Non-Arabs as being an issue of AQEEDAH and some of them even considered it as being from the FUNDAMENTALS of the Sunna!

Note: the emphasis on IMPERATIVE [sic] is his and not mine. He is clearly saying here that it is of the utmost importance that one believe in the superiority of the Arabs (and their own inferiority)

Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) wrote:

“Verily, what Ahlul Sunnah is upon: Is the BELIEF (I’tiqaad) that the Arab race is better (Afdal) then the Non-Arab race. Whether (the Non-Arabs) are Hebrews, Aramaic, Romans, Persians and other than them…”. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/419

Abu Muhammad, Harb ibn Ismail ibn Khalaf Al-Kirmaany (died 280 – ra) who was one of the students and companions of Imaam Ahmed (ra) also mentioned this point when he wrote about the descriptions and BELIEFS of the PEOPLE OF THE SUNNAH.

He began his treatise by saying:

“This is the Madhab of the Imams of ‘Ilm and the ‘Ashaab-ul-Athar’ and (the people of) Ahlus Sunnah – who are the ones who are followed – (and they) are well known by these (issues).

And I met those who I met from the Ulemah of Iraqand the Hijaz and As-Sham and other than them and they were upon these (issues).

Whoever goes against anything from these issues or he criticizes any of them or disparages anyone who says them, then he is a ‘Mubtadi’ and he’s outside of the Jamaa’t and outside of the Manhaj of the Sunnah and the Sabeel of the Haqq!

So we see here that one who disagrees is now mubtadi (heretic). This is a very serious charge. So now if you reject this, then you are an innovator and heretic.

And this was the madhab of AHMED, ISHAQ IBN IBRAHIM IBN MAKHLAD (RAAHUWIYAH), and ABDULLAH IBN AZ-ZUBAIR AL-HUMAYDEE and SA’EED IBN MANSUR and other than them from those who I sat with and took knowledge from.

They used to say Emaan (faith) consists of (making) statements, (doing) actions and (having) the Niyyah…”

Imam Harb ibn Ismail (ra) then proceeded to mention many of the well known issues of the Aqeedah of Ahlul-Hadith and then he said:

“…And we know the rights of the Arabs and (we know) their VIRTUE and their PRECEDENCE (in the Deen) and we love them because of the Hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him): “Loving the Arabs is from Emaan and hating them is hypocrisy”.

And we do not say as the ‘Shu’oobiyah’ (those who hate the Arabs) and (as) the lowly ones from the ex-slaves (say) who do not love the Arabs and they don’t recognize their virtues, for verily their statement is a BIDAH” and (it’s) in contradiction”.

It should be noted that the Hadith that was used by Imam Harb ibn Ismail ibn Khalaf Al-Kirmaany (ra): “Loving the Arabs is from Emaan and hating them is hypocrisy” is not an authentic Hadith! Even though it’s a famous and widely used Hadith, it should not be used to prove a point in Aqeedah!

[See what Imaam Al-Albaani (ra) said about this Hadith in his Silsilaa Ad-Da’eefah #1190]

To read the beneficial treatise of Imam Harb ibn Ismail ibn Khalaf Al-Kirmaany (ra) you can go to these books:

• Tabaqaat-ul-Hanaabilah – Imam Abu Ya’laa (ra) – 1/145
• Al-Maqsad-ul-Arshad Fee Dhikr Ashaab-ul-Imam Ahmed – Imam Ibn Muflih (ra) – 1/354
• Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem – Sheikh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) 1/145

This treatise and ‘SUNNAH’ of Imam Harb ibn Ismail Al-Kirmaany (ra) has also been described as being the actual words of Imam Ahmed (ra) as well.

In the biography of Imam Abul-Abbass, Ahmed ibn Ja’far ibn Ya’qub ibn Abdullah Al-Faarisee Al-Astakhrey (ra) it is reported that he (i.e. Imama Al-Astakhrey) said:

“Imam Ahmed told me…” and then Imam Al-Astakhrey (ra) proceeded to narrate the words of Imam Ahmed (ra) and they were almost identical to the words that were mentioned in the treatise of Imam Harb ibn Ismail Al-Kirmaany (ra).

See the biography of Imam Al-Astakhrey (ra) in the book ‘Tabaqaat-ul-Hanaabilah’ by Imam Abu Ya’laa (ra) 1/30

In addition to what has been mentioned, the Imam of the Sunnah and its people – during his time – Imam Abu Muhammad Al-Barbahaaree (died 329 – ra) also mentioned this issue in his famous and beneficial book ‘Sharh-us-Sunnah’:

He said: “And (come to) know the superiority of Bani Haashim due to their (blood) relations to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and (come to) know the superiority of Quraish and THE ARABS and (the superiority of) all of their sub-tribes. Therefore, know their position and the rights that they have in Islam…”. Refer to point #96

What EXACTLY is “their position” and “their rights”? What EXACTLY are these special rights? Can we spell this out? Brothers (and sisters) are only left to fill in the blanks and affect an Arab accent and become subservient to Arabs. The very thing my brother claims to be against. But this argument only leads in that direction.

The Imaam and ‘Aalim Ar-Rabbaanee Ibn Abee ‘Asim (died 287 – ra) also brought this point forward in his famous book ‘Kitaab-us-Sunnah’.

Similar to the other Aqeedah books that were called ‘Kitaab-us-Sunnah’, Imam Ibn Abee Asim’s (ra) book discusses with detailed proofs from the Quran and Sunnah what the correct Aqeedah is according to the Salif of this Ummah (may Allah have mercy upon them and establish us on their way)..

From pages 618 – 628 Imam Ibn Abee Asim (ra) brings a number of Ahaadith that prove the virtues and superiority of Quraish over Non-Quraishites. See his book with the Takhreej of Imaam Al-Albaani (ra).

Clearly, these Ahaadith were put in this book of AQEEDAH in order to establish and prove the topic of this subject. That it is from the AQEEDAH of the Salif to hold to and BELIEVE that the Arabs are better than Non-Arabs!

Shiekh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) said:

“Know that the Ahaadith (that show) the superiority of Quraish and then the superiority of Bani Haashim are numerous and this is not the place (to gather all of them) but they also prove this (superiority of the Arab over Non-Arabs).

And this is due to the fact that the relationship of Quraish to the Arabs is just like the relationship of the Arabs to the rest of the people (i.e. Quraishites are superior to Non-Quraishites and the Arabs are superior to Non-Arabs). Verily Allah the Most High has designated the Arabs and their language with ‘Ahkaam’ that are peculiar and unique.

And then He preferred Quraish over the rest of the Arabs in what He has given them of prophecy and other than that from the ‘Khasaais’ (unique and peculiar qualities)”. Iqtidaa As-Siraat-il-Mustaqeem 2/431

Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) also said:

“…The superiority of the Arab race and then (the superiority of) Quraish and then (the superiority of) Bani Haashim, is not simply due to the fact the Prophet (peace be upon him) is from them – even though this is (a point) of superiority – but instead, they themselves are superior within themselves“. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/420

For a deeper and more comprehensive look at the many unique and peculiar qualities that Allah has bestowed upon the Arabs, look at what Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) wrote in this regard in his book Al-Iqtidaa 2/447-451.

He scholastically detailed and described a number of these unique qualities of the Arabs, in a way that will help the Muslim who is balanced, fair and a seeker of the truth – Insha Allah – to develop a greater understanding and appreciation for who the Arabs really WERE/are as a nation!

He will also began to understand some of the Hikmah as to why Allah DIVINELY chose the Arabs, their language and their lands to serve as the bedrock and foundation of Islam.

After reading what Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) wrote about them – Insha Allah – you will hopefully develop a greater sense of appreciation for certain aspects of their culture and characteristicsthat caused them to become the vanguard of Islam or ‘As-Saabiqoon Al-Awwaloon’ as they have been called in the Quran!

So now we see that the underlying message here is following Arab culture and characteristics is what we must do. This explains a lot.

Also, see what the Imam-ul-Kabeer – Al-Allamah – Al-Fahhaamah – Al-Bahhaatha- Al-Bahru – Sheikh Bakr Abdullah Abu Zaid (may Allah cure him and strengthen him and protect him from his enemies) said about these unique and peculiar qualities of the Arabs in his beneficial book ‘Special Characteristics of the Arabian Peninsula’ (Khasaais Jazeerat-il-Arab).

Masha Allah, an entire book written on the subject of Arab superiority and not once is the spectre of nationalism raised

Specifically, take a look at the chapter entitled: ‘The special characteristics of the Prophet’s people and his kindred’ (pg. 67 – 74)

There is another book that I would like to bring to your attention that should be read if you want to understand this issue and deal with it justly and academically and even though the book is very small in its size, it nonetheless carries a lot of weight and it’s heavy in the scales of ‘Ilm and Baseerah Masha Allah.

It’s a book that was written by a Hanbali scholar whose name was: Mar’ee Al-Karmy Al-Hanbali (ra) and it’s called: ‘Masbook-ud-Dhahab Fee Fadl-il-Arab’ and it’s a book that supports the idea and notion that Arabs are better than Non-Arabs.

The brother continuously gives the readers suggested reading to bolster their belief that they are less than the Arabs.

The book was edited and its Ahaadith graded (Takhreej) by one of our beloved Sheikhs and teachers. One whom we love – for the sake of Allah – and yet we don’t go overboard in our love for him, nor do we see the truth as being the sole property of his to the exclusion of all others! Nor do we raise him to a level that he does not deserve!

We love him – for Allah’s sake – due to the benefit we’ve derived from him over the years Masha Allah. We also love him, due to the fact he has – and he continues to – call to the Sunnah and he calls to the defence of the Sunnah!

Many of the scholars of this Ummah have acknowledged his many efforts in spreading the Sunnah, purifying it, and making it known amongst the Arabs and Non-Arabs alike!

We love him because of his love for the Sunnah and its people and because of his love of As- Salifiyyah and its people and because of his love of ‘Ilm and its people (and Allah knows best as to the secrets and realities of his heart).

We also love him for the honourable way in which he has always remained consistent and steadfast on Islam and the Sunnah (and Allah is his Haseeb).

When Ahlul Ahwaa – from outside of the ranks of As-Salifiyyah trained their arrows on him, his teacher (ra) and on his brothers, we witnessed – from their writings – strength, knowledge, justice and manliness Masha Allah!

We also love him for the patience he exemplified when the ‘blazing meteors’ [?] of Ahlul Ahwaa – from within the ranks of As-Salifiyyah [?] – were hurled in his direction and the ‘Raamoon’ cowardly tried to put his Salifiyyah in doubt – in the minds of the ignorant masses – by holding secret, exclusive, back door, Ikhwaani meetings in which they ignorantly and unjustly CONSPIRED to ‘bring him down’!

He is ‘MUSTAFAH’ and ‘MUKHTAAR’ in that Allah has favoured him and chosen him to be one of those people who continue to carry the FLAMING TORCH of Khair – Hidaayah – Noor – Rahmah – Istiqaamah which is: ‘AL-MADRASSATU ALBAANIYATU Al-MUBAARAKATU’ – (The ‘practical’ and ‘theoretic’ Madrassah of Iman Naasir Deen Al-Albaani (ra).

He is no other than our Sheikh, Abul Haarith, Ali ibn Hasan ibn Abdul-Hameed Al-Halabi Al-Atharee (may Allah preserve him).

He’s one of the major STUDENTS OF KNOWLEDGE and he’s not a MAJOR SCHOLAR as some of our well intended (and Allah knows best) less informed and inexperienced youth have suggested in their attempt to push back Ghaloo with another form of Ghaloo ‘Wa Ahlaa Huma Mur’!

After reading the book of Sheikh Mar’ee Al-Karmy Al-Hanbali (ra) in which Sheikh Mar’ee (ra) deals with proving the issue of the superiority of the Arabs over the Non-Arabs, I happened to meet with Sheikh Ali Al-Halabi (ha) in Canada and I directly asked him:

“Sheikhee, I read the edition of Imam Al-Karamy’s (ra) book that you edited and I would like to know whether or not YOU also hold the position of those who believe the Arabs are superior to Non-Arabs?”

Sheikh Ali (ha) smiled at me as his ‘Firaasat-ul-Arabiyyah’ informed him that I – at that time – had a problem with such a position!

He stared at me very seriously and said:

“Yes I do BELIEVE Arabs are better than Non-Arabs! And if you’re Salify and claiming As-Salifiyyah you should also BELIEVE the same thing! At the same time, I also believe that Bilal ibn Rabah Al-Habashi (ra) and Salman Al-Faarisee (ra) – two Non-Arabs – are better than the vast majority of Arabs that have been created and Allah knows best!

So there we have it. The final nail. If you are part of the Salafi movement, then you’re obliged to BELIEVE the same thing. So according to them, I must believe that I’m inferior to the Arabs I meet and make myself subservient to them.

Is this what the Salafis are calling us to? In conclusion, let me say that this explains so much of the bizarre, self-loathing behavior exhibited by that community (those dead-enders who still happen to be part of what’s left of it). But this is no doubt part of the legacy that they have left for us. It also helps us understand for example why their so-called “tele-links” only connect to Arab Sheikhs, and none of the other thousands of ulama throughout the world.

Just contrast for a moment the mentality of these people in a year which could possibly elect the first Black President of the United States! Do we really need these types in this country promoting this thinking? It is this racial inferiority complex, whether openly expressed or carefully muted, which accounts for the Blackamerican Muslim’s inability to move forward, develop his own community, and make progress in this country. Whenever he ventures out on his own he’s told that “he doesn’t know enough Islam”, or has to answer to charges – as brother Abdur-Rahman Muhammad is repeatedly made to do – of “Black Nationalism”. Yet here are people openly preaching racial supremacy and no one says a thing!

Comments
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  2. Abdul Jabbar says:

    I think the last Sermon of the prophet pretty much shuts down this crap for me. Brother don’t let these self hating muslims waste your time.

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  4. peacefulmuslimah says:

    I would like to make some really profound statement here, but all I can say is “UGH, what a cretin!”

    I have seen the negative impact of the Salafis here in the Gulf, but I think the sickness is greater in the West. I suspect it is because of the insecurity of some Muslims and the desire to feel “more Muslim” than Arab “born Muslims”.

    Salaam Alaikum,
    PM

    • muslimah says:

      As Salaamu Alayki Peacefulmuslimah,

      There is something much greater happening, and the people are “turning the other cheek” sort of speak. Shaytan’s work is sooo visible here, people wake up angry, and engage angry most days that I have witnessed. Muslims dont want to speak to each other. I can go on and on, but I wont. Its beyond insecurity and feeling “more muslim”. We are not fighting for the right things anymore, family or community unity for instance, where I live. This is not the message of the rasoolAllah, so why is it stated at all?!??? Fear Allah is said less & less, and of course not shown. Sister this thing is getting more scary as the days pass. InshaAllah take care, May Allah keep you safe, Amin.

      Muslimah

      Wa alayki Salaam

  5. Abu Usamah says:

    Please do not confuse this guy (the Golden or Goldie) with Abu Usamah (Detroit Eastside!) furthermore please pray for the brother eventually maybe he will regain his selfesteem inshaAllah

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  7. Dawud says:

    As-Salaamu `Alaykum,

    JazakALLAHU khayran for the post.

    It is true that not only Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal and Ibn Taymiyyah made such statements but also Imam Malik bin Anas Imam Ash-Shafi’i also made some negative remarks about Blacks. We pray that ALLAH has mercy on these scholars, who were humans that erred in some matters just as all of us do. The Qur’an is clear (49.13) that ethnic superiority has no place in Al-Islam.

    Just as this Salafi brother has “excreted” his views about Arab superiority, I’ve seen indigenous brothers and sisters praise the Ottoman Turks in a similiar way minus quoting ahadeeth that are weak.

    As I always say, taking shahadah alone is not enough to break the chains of psychological slavery that many of us still suffer from. Just as some of us back in the day and maybe still say “good hair” is straigther hair like Whites and “nappy hair” is no good, some of us have transferred our latent inferiority complexes with Whites to Arabs. This mental sickness shows itself in terms of associating the best Muslims soley on people being Arab and Non-Arabs being 2nd class.

    Please don’t confuse this. I know many beautiful Arab Muslim brothers, and I do believe it to be meritorious for Non Arabs to learn the Arabic language.

    Now as for the “immigrant” formed organizations such as ISNA, ICNA, MAS, etc. having these sort of views, I truly believe that there is a new movement among these organizations to purge themselves of some of this overseas baggage. The reality is that many of the children of the founders of these groups find more in common with the Blackamerican Muslims than their own parents. These children in their late 20’s and 30’s are slowly influencing a change in the discourse of these groups. I believe that in another decade these organizations will look very little like how they did in the 80’s.

    There will, however, always be Arabs, who see themselves as superior Muslims due to their Arabness. This mentality was never totally purified from them when they were in Jahiliyyah. It goes all the way back to the governments of Bani Umayyah beginning in the times of the tabi’een.

    But ALLAH knows best.

    Wassalaam.

  8. Word says:

    I am very disappointed that this kind of racial inferiority is being taught to brothers who need to be learning things that are more beneficial than this. I knew that the salafi movement seemed to promote subjugation to Arabs, but I didn’t know that it was this blatant

  9. IMM says:

    Why is a black man teaching this? What happened to him?

  10. 'Antara says:

    As-salaamu ‘alaykum.

    I am a proud and honourable non-Arab who agrees with the shaykh. I truly love, respect and admire Arabs – their language, their culture, and their beauty. Thank you for sharing this. May Allah bless you.

    Fi aman Allah.

  11. 'Antara says:

    Here is an excellent and enlightening article entitled “Has Allah placed Arabs over Non-Arabs?”:

    http://www.livingislam.org/fiqhi/fiqha_e76.html

  12. *sighs

    This is retarded

    I would never marry such a man

    where in the world is his dignity?

  13. amad says:

    Do the scholars of the large immigrant Muslim organizations like I.S.N.A, Q.S.S., C.A.I.R., M.A.S., I.I.I.T, etc, clandestinely subscribe to this noxious belief?

    The only point I will make is to take contention with the above quoted statement. For some reason, you have concluded that the questions of Arabs superiority is only relevant to blackamericans. But akhi, Pakistanis, Malaysians, Caucasians, i.e. 80% of all Muslims are NOT Arab. So this has nothing to do with racism against blackamericans. If you want to take issue with this, then take issue with it as being a non-Arab, along with other non-Arabs. I am surprised at why everything these days is being conflated to make the impression that the Muslims of the world are against blackamericans, as was also demonstrated in another post about Palestine (not on your blog).

    And to put the nail in the coffin regarding the organizations you mentioned, none of them (except perhaps MAS) have an Arab domination; rather, Pakistanis and non-Arabs, in the case of ISNA (Sr. Ingid Mattson), have a major say in it. And don’t forget ICNA, which has very little Arab influence.

    I believe that one should weigh the consequences of one’s rhetoric. I don’t have anything to say with regards to the jurisprudence of what you stated. There are many theoretical things in the deen that are best to stay away from, because the practical application is different. In other words, I agree that for Abu Usamah to bring this up is not only practically useless, but also counter-productive.

    But to imply that this is part of some hidden conspiracy is wallahi a huge stretch. Why would this conspiracy only target black Muslims and not Pakistanis for instance? I personally have gone to conferences of QSS, ISNA, MAS, etc. and never heard of this underlying conspiracy. I personally know Arab and non-Arab shayookh and have never heard of this underlying conspiracy. In other words, if there was INDEED such a conspiracy, I’d know about it, or feel it.

    To start dividing Muslims based on race, nationality or other social identities is dangerous. At the same time, I am a huge supporter of MANA’s stated cause, and believe that every community should enrich itself, because it best knows itself. But, I believe MANA and its great leaders such as Imam Siraj, Imam Johari, etc. would never mean self-help and self-enrichment to be a separation and division from other Muslims. Build bridges while fixing your own home. Not fix homes and destroy bridges.

    I am sorry akhi, but I find your conspiracy theory quite incredulous and without any factual evidence of its actual manifestation. The cultish salafi problems of the northeast had nothing to do with this theological issue, but everything to do with a few students of knowledge who learned a little and married themselves to concepts that were foreign to this nation. There are salafis all over the world who haven’t had the marriage-divorce-go-arounds, or the other issues specific to the locality. This stereotyping is something we hate for ourselves as Muslims, and something we should be careful to apply to ANY group.

    wallahualam

    • AfrO says:

      This man was only exposing nonsense article. Wouldn’t it be good if atleast you refrain from condemning the victim?
      Know that condemning the victim is that you still support the oppressor adn have negative attitude against the victim!

  14. Zaid says:

    Asalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu, Im not an arab nor do I say Arabs are superior to non arabs or whites over blacks or blacks over whites. But if you look at the muslim society, as a whole, we are divided into many languages and seperated from arabic, or our family like mine which is pakistani and they are muslim they dont know arabic. And if Allaah wills they did know arabic, the language of the day of Judgement, they would be far knowledgeable about Islaam, and they would not fall into so many innovations into the religion. As you see which people fall into all of these issues of deviancy it is those who dont know the language of the Quran and sunnah and this is stated so many times by many scholars is the people go astray because they dont know Arabic. And An Arab is not by his lineage but by his language, so anyone who speaks arabic is an Arab. Because its a language, not a race. And no doubt in the eyes of Allaah piety is what ranks one above another and not the language and you will see many who are non arab speakers who reverted to Islaam and they are more pious than the alot of the arabs. So the language holds no weight who is more pious or not, but language has alot to do with understanding our Religion Islaam. This language is the key to knowledge, all the books of knowledge are in this language, and who has more knowledge is superior than the one who doesn’t possess knowledge, so in this way to have the key to the knowledge and to use the key to access the doors of knowledge yes one would be superior including with his righteousness and sincerity to Allaah. If you were to look at it in this perspective then yes the one who possesses the arabic language whether he is black, white, pakistani, or chinese, who speaks and reads and writes the language would have the upperhand to be better than those who dont have the key to knowledge. Then on the other hand there are people born in the language may Allaah guide them who dont use the key or who dont advance their arabic and they cant even read the text of the Arabic or understand it and even the Quran so are they considered arabs? I would have to say no, regardless of how much they can brag about it, I know Arabs who read english books on Islaam rather than arabic, because their arabic is not so strong. And then you have all those other people who hate arabs and the language but they memorize the quran in arabic and learn urdu, like my people, and this is because of racism, they have the ability to memorize the quran in broken arabic, but have no sense to learn what the meaning is, is it not that Allaah revealed the Quran for us to ponder over or just memorize it and say we are knowledgeable but have no spec of the understanding or know what the meaning of the Quran is. Then is it the person is just blind. I remember many people tell me that if you were to memorize the Quran but dont know its meaning then the person is in doom and they mentioned this to be in the Quran, (as I am not quoting the Quran just what my teacher told me of what it says in the Quran) The language of the Muslims is arabic, whether we know arabic or not or whether we like it or not due to racism in our hearts, but this is our language. So dont separate your selves from the language and let the kuffar take the language away from us and brain wash us to think that arabic is not good, and I am not saying not to learn english, because we need to do dawah in this language or convert everyone to speaking Arabic like the British english did to us they took away our language slowly. They know if they take away arabic they take away from our Islaam. And what language do we memorize for our prayers. So we all have the ability to learn, do we have the ability to seek, may Allaah guide us all upon the correct understanding of this issue ameen. Barakallaah feek, your brother in Islaam. Zaid ibn Kazi al Pakistanee

  15. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    As Abu Usamah said, this is a fundamental AQEEDAH ISSUE and the Arabs are BETTER than us

    SEVERAL scholars of the past and present have agreed and YOU did not support your post with ANY evidence. Abu Usamah’s post was filled with evidence, your with insults and hate. You need to realize your position akhee. You were made less than the Arabs, but that does not mean that you are not Muslim. They have been favored over the rest of us, and that is the way it is. The Arab cultures are closer to the Sunnah than other cultures. Arab run masjids are generally closer to the Sunnah than non-Arab masjids. We don’t find the amount of bidah in the Arab cultures that we find in ajamee cultures. The Arabs have preserved this deen. We should not be ashamed of any aspect of this deen. There should be no blame in imitating and being like the Arabs in what is permissible because their culture is certainly closer to the Sunnah than the worthless BLACK culture of BET video girls, welfare checks, clown culture, laziness, gang problems, out of control crime and ghetto culture that has produced NOTHING!! Black History Month is in February, the shortest month of the Kaafir calender year, for the good reason that they have produced nothing.

    The Arabs on the other hand have produced numerous scholars that have protected this deen and still to this day now.

    I am free from these BLACK people

  16. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    abu usamah is not on the salafi methodology he with the people of Ahlul-Bid’ah go to salaf.com salafitalk.com or salaficast.net

  17. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    salafi methodology is not about race we are all muslim upon the right path that salafi dawah

  18. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Akhee Abdal Hakeem

    Where is your proof that Abu Usamah is not salafi? Let’s not be oppressive. Which of our ulamaa have said that he is not salafi?

  19. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    i didn’t say he is not a salafi i said he was not upon the salafi methodology no more he’s with the people of ahlul-bid’ah(hizbi) in is speech and action like what he said about the ulamaa with is speech attacks the major scholars with is false bayan

  20. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Abdal Hakeem,

    You are playing with words akhee. If you are not upon the salafi methodology then YOU ARE NOT SALAFI. Who are the people of bid’ah that he is with? Besides, this post was about the fadeelah of the Arabs in our Ummah and not Abu Usamah’s salafiyyah. Which of the major scholars did he attack?

    Know that the likes of Abu Khadeejah are NOT from the ulamaa akhee

  21. amad says:

    subhanAllah…. you see akhi AbdurRahman, your problem is not about the superiority of Arab over Ajamee… its on removing some of our brethren from the cultish mentality as demonstrated by the pathetic little spat between our two brothers above, arguing over who’s salafi and who’s not.

    May Allah guide us from the movement mentality!

  22. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    1)he continues is defence of Al-Hidayah(hizbi) work with them,praising them
    2)is open attacks and dispraising and mocking shaikh rabee ibn hadi
    3)is defence of the innovator Abul-Hasan Misri

    you are right about what the post was about i just wanted to make it clear about abu usamah i don’t have problem with what you said about post

  23. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    amad and abdur rahman you two need to removing the black mentality moverment from ur heart not everything have to be about black this is islam not black islam

  24. funny… Amad isn’t black… he might pass as blackistani however🙂

  25. Shibli Zaman says:

    as-salamu `alaykum,

    Allahu-l Musta`an. There were so many horrible mistakes in Abu Usamah ath-Thahabi’s email, I don’t think I can tackle them all. What I will tackle is the most glaring and possibly outright deceptive…

    “Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was of the opinion that Arabs ARE SUPERIOR (Afdal) than Non-Arabs…
    He wrote: ‘And the MAJORITY of scholars are of the opinion that the Arab species is better (Afdal) than the Non-Arab (species) just as the nation of Quraish is better (Afdal) than the Non-Quraishite nations and (just as) the nation of Bani Haashim is better (Afdal) than the Non-Bani Haashim (nations).’ Majm’u Al-Fataawa 19/29”

    Why stop there? Why not quote the NEXT PARAGRAPH?

    “HOWEVER, the prevalence of one group over another group does not necessitate that every individual (from the preferred group) will have preference over the individual (from the other group). For in the Non-Arabs there are many who are better many of the Arabs. In those not from the Quraysh from the Muhajirs and the Ansar were many who were better than many from the Quraysh. In those not of Bani Hashim from Qurash and those not from Quraysh were many who were better than many from Bani Hashim. In regards to this, the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) stated: ‘The best of generations is the one I have arisen in, then the ones succeeding them, then the ones succeeding them.’ Yet, in the later generations there are many who are better than many from the Second and Third generations (designated in the Hadith). With this, the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) did not isolate the Second or Third generations (designated in the Hadith) by jusristic decree. Likewise, he did not isolate the Arabs by juristic decree. Moreover, he did not isolate some of his Sahabah with juristic decree other than what was for the rest of his Ummah, but when anyone from the Sahabah had a preferred quality, they were informed of it. Similarly for those who came before and after were not isolated with juristic decree. They were informed of what preferred qualities they had which made them stand out based UPON THEIR DEEDS, AND THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR LINEAGE.”

    I’ve touched upon the “Culture is Haram” nonsense being a disguised Nasserist Pan-Arabist propaganda tool. Likewise, these misquotes and quotes taken OUT OF CONTEXT from some of the greatest scholars of Islam regarding the Tafdil of Arabs is another Satanic ploy in the same.

    The Tafdil of the Arabs, when mentioned in the books of Fiqh, is in regards to Kuf’ in marriage and the LANGUAGE OF THE QUR’AN. Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) did hold the OPINION AND THEORY which he NEVER claimed to be fact that the Arabs, Persians and Europeans were the prevalent races above all others. The fact that he ties the words “Faris” (Persia) and “Rum” (Rome) to the Arabic words for “Guarding” (“faras”) and “Casting away” (rami) is almost prose like and does not seem to be very serious on his part at all. We all know, just as well as he did, that the words “Persia” and “Rome” do not have their origins in Arabic. Based on this alone, this can not be taken seriously.

    Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) quotes the following Prophetic Hadith several times in the same work:

    “There is no preference for the Arab over the Non-Arab. Likewise, there is not for the Non-Arab over the Arab. Likewise, not the Black over the White. Nor the White over the Black. None except for by piety.”

    This is not contradiction. It is INDICATION that his quotes are being MISUSED out of context to support a racist cause. I find it heart-wrenching and tragic that this was done by none other than a Black American.

    I normally would have ignored this since the Salafis make chop-suey out of me whenever I address them in public, but I did this primarily to defend Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) from being portrayed as a racist.

    May Allah forgive me for my errors and make any truth I have spoken be of benefit.

    Allah knows best.

  26. Shibli Zaman says:

    Brother Dawud, could you please share what information you have regarding Imams Malik and ash-Shafi`i (rahimahullah) disparaging Blacks in any way? I am not aware of this. Perhaps, there is a misunderstanding here?

    Malik and ash-Shafi`i were both from the Red Sea area which, especially in that time, was a Afro-Asiatic demographic of very dark complexion and tightly curled hair. Ibn Taymiyyah on the other hand was from Harran which was on the borders of Rome and would have had a very Mediterranean/European looking population so the slight “White is right” influence is more understandable in his social context.

    Allah knows best.

    Jazakullahu khayran. was-salam

  27. Brother A says:

    “They should not – intentionally or unintentionally – misunderstand or misinterpret the intent behind the statement

    Which is exactly what was done here, making a non-issue out of an email that was passed out maybe 3-4, if not 5 years ago, in a series of emails none of which expressed the authors personal beliefs and instead (rather colloquially) quoted scholars of the past that held this opinion.
    —————————————-
    You said:

    Abu Usamah’s email quoted below explains why so many brothers in that movement suffer from inferiority complexes and try to be Arab.

    While he said:

    They despise being led by an Ajamee in Salaat and in some cases (like in Sham today) when one of them speaks about a black Ajamee person he refers to him as ‘Abd (without any evil intent in many instances). These people are the Arab nationalist like those of the Iraqi Bathist party.

    Ironically enough, there are some Ajamees who are of this opinion! They mistakenly believe being Arab is tantamount to being Muslim and they believe being a Muslim means you must speak English (for example) with a broken Arab accent! They believe Arab woman are all princes or queens and all Non-Arab woman are lowly and unworthy! Some of them shamelessly take pride in lying and claiming that they are of Arab decent!

    Hmm… me thinks that this last quote is not particularly promoting Arab supremacy, and that you may be taking things out of context.
    —————————————-

    Being that this was an email sent out probably on a listserve, did you receive permission from the listserve or the author before reproducing it? If not then you could be in a lot of legal trouble.
    —————————————-

    On another note, did you by chance email this Salafi Imam and ask his opinion before using slanderous words like:
    1- brazen (or foolish)
    2- suffer from inferiority complexe
    3- adds quite demagogically
    4- reeking, ideological excrement
    5- resembles the rantings of Hitler’s Mein Kampf
    6- slavishly imitate them
    7- spurious teaching
    8- shameful behavior
    9- clearly contradicting himself.
    10- this aberrant behavior
    11- breathtakingly fraudulent argumentation
    12- “Master Race” hokum
    13- slavish imitation
    14- dead-enders
    15- Hitleresque doctrine, beginning with Imam Abu Usamah himself.

    —————————————-
    He says:
    “…it as being IMPERITIVE that it be brought to the attention of…”

    You said:
    …it is of the utmost importance that one believe in…

    Hmmm….quite a difference. “brought to the attention of” is not “believed in”, seems that you are clearly twisting this mans words.
    ———————————

    No more mention of difference of opinion. It is just a fact. He is saying that the Salaf BELIEVED the Arabs were better and we should too…

    Could it be that you were uninformed, and that in that email you read he was presenting the opinion of those that believed such a thing, laying out their proofs so that they could be dealt with later? I ask again: Did you receive permission to reproduce this man’s words here, or did you not care because disrespecting someone that is seen as an “Imam” will no doubt give you the props that you need to feel good about yourself and impress others? See this line of reasoning can be applied both way.
    —————————————-

    Brother you should fear Allah, advice those you see as wrong, and get informed of the whole issue before you posts things on it. By posting this type of ridiculous and wholly immature answer to an set of numerous emails that you are undoubtfully uninformed about you are doing exactly what you accuse those that you detract from on your webstie: making mountains out of mole hills.

    You make so many ridiculous and outlandish claims, inferring what you like from this one email that your objective in doign so is not clear.

    One thing is clear however: Your approach is not scholarly at all, and is more fanfare than anything else.

  28. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Brother Abdur-Rahman

    Here are a few things for you to think about, so that you will stop defending the black hip hop, car theft, drive by shooting, fornication laziness culture.

    Blacks lead in violent crimes like murder, assault, robbery and rape
    but only make up like 13 percent of America. Show me a black neighborhood and I will show you a crime ridden one.

    Believe me akhee, you will feel so much better by attaching yourself to the Sunnah and the ulamaa and their books and speeches. You will only fall into destruction with the lowly blacks

  29. Brother A says:

    Shibli Zaman-

    Thank you for that clarification and translation. I believe that that point was made in another email by brother Imam on the email server years ago where he presents the proof of the other side. It was a series of emails and this post is a johnny-come-lately post.

  30. Shariq Hasan says:

    Uhh Akhi, who are you? Why did you start a blog? You dont seem to have any knowledge, but you insist on commenting on knowledge based issues.

    the brother abu usamah atleast presented the topic with quotes from people like imaam ahmad and in a scholarly way. The least you could do is disagree with him by bringing other proofs from the quraan and the sunnah and the statements of the salaf.

    At the end of the day, who are you to go off like the way you did. You have a lot of people reading ur blog akhi, maybe you should think three times before putting urself out there. Your retarded opinions and lack of any scholarly etiquette when addressing issues can easily misguide gullible people.

    Before you go off on other people, maybe you should remember th hadeeth of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam when he told us that during the latter times people will take ignorant people as their leaders.

    I know u dont want to become one of those ignorant leaders that people look up to now do u?

  31. Faisal says:

    Among the benefits Arabs has bestowed on BLACKS: civilization, clothes, science, not eating human beings, the eradication of many diseases that had plagued mankind throughout the ages, reading, cleanliness, and most of all ISLAM. The list goes on and on. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Islamic students go to universities in the tens of thousands to study in Saudi Arabia. Not Africa

  32. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Abdal Hakeem

    You continue to throw out charges without support. Who from the ulamaa has said that Al-Hidayah is hizbi? When has Abu Usamah attacked or mocked Shaikh Rabee? When did one’s position on Abul-Hasan Misri become a test to one’s salafiyyah?

    Brother A & Shariq:

    This brother needs to understand that he is less and just deal with it. Why would one complain that the sahabah were better? The Arabs are just better than us and he is from a filthy and evil culture of crack epidemics, gangsta rap, drive by shootings and drunks that manages to destroy everything in its path and he needs disassociate himself from completely from it. He would feel better once he did that.

  33. Word says:

    To those who disagree with Abdur-Rahman’s disagreement that the Arabs are superior…why do you have to insult his race and culture in such a manner. It is quite offensive.

  34. Shariq Hasan says:

    Yes, as ignorant as his post might be, we are all muslims here and need to respect certain limits. no racial insults inshaallah and no generalizations.

  35. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Br. “Word”

    Who has insulted anyone racially? Everything that I have said is true. The brother needs to leave off the evil black culture. Bottom line

  36. Salahuddin, Abu Ismail says:

    As salaamu alakum, ahki I’m in agreement with this statement from the brother Shariq Hasan. These issues you are talking about are issues of knowledge and CLEARLY you are someone who are VERY, VERY, VERY IGNORANT. First learn the positions of the scholars as well as the position of what is being quoted from them. Not to forget as Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi wa salaam) said to his daughter Fatimah, “what an excellent salaf I am for you.” And the word in Arabic to describe one who follows the Salaf is Salafi. Know, May Allah guide both you and me, Ibnu Qayyim said that guidance to the path is one thing, but guidance upon the path is something different.

    And the Prophet (sallalahu alayhi wa salaam) was an arab so were most of the sahaaba, As Allah choose the best of people from the Arabs and as He said that he revealed the Quraan in the language of the Arabs. Your twisting of words and meanings is dangerous and leads people to think other than what the people of knowledge, the scholars, not the like of Abu Usammah, Balil Phillips, Abu Muslimah, Hakeem Quick, Hasaan Somali, Abu Khadeejah, Abu Muhammad or any of these well known “DUAAT”, (callers to Islaam) may Allah guide us all to follow the path of the Salaf, Salafayyiah…Ameen.

    Knowledge preceeds speech and action!!!

  37. Shibli Zaman says:

    Brother Salahuddin, you said:

    “And the word in Arabic to describe one who follows the Salaf is Salafi”

    Could you please provide the entry in Lisan al-`Arab which states that “Salafi” means this? To further clarify: I am requesting an entry from the classical Ma`ajim that state that a follower of the first 3 generations of Muslims is a “Salafi” as opposed to using the word “Khalaf”. Jazakullahu khayran. was-salam

  38. Hassan As-Salafee says:

    Often the hardest pill to swallow in life is the truth. Those hurtful words are a pittance compared to the pain that victims of blacks feel every day of the week. I’m sick and tired of this misplaced oversensitivity on the part of these blacks. As a person said above, blacks have done nothing and they need to put up or shut up. Since they can’t put up, then let them shut up! Anyone with eyes can see that Arabs are the forerunners of the deen and they need to realize this. Love for the Arabs if from the deen and this is not racism.

    Get over yourselves and consider things outside the scope of your little black world. It won’t be the last time someone will say something that will hurt you. You placed a big burden on your shoulders delving into this issue and now you can’t deal with it? This is the way it is. Grow up “my brutha”.

    Maybe I should write this in ebonics so the blacks can understand: “git ova yo selves and git wit dis deen homey”

  39. Abul Qayyim says:

    as salaamu alaikum

    bro shibli’s post really put this argument to rest, for he quoted in full the text from majmoo’ fataawa.

    bro abu abdillah h, was that a blanket statement you made when you referred to blacks as the “lowly blacks”?

  40. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Abul Qayyim

    I used to be from that LOWLY culture until Islam brought me out of it. Yes, they are a lowly people. Are not BET video girls, gang violence, drugs, crack epidemics, and fornication LOWLY? My point is that there is nothing redeemable about BLACK culture and it is therefore LOWLY.

  41. LEILA says:

    To Abdal Hakim Jamaican and Aboo Abdillah H on judgement day Allah will not ask you whether Abu Usamah was a salafi or ahlu bid’ah. The ulama are not your masters, but like you will have to answer to Allah one day. Learn the deen to help yourself not to create a cult you choose to call it “salafi” and use it to dismiss other muslims or feel better about yourselves because somehow you are on the “right path” and other muslims aren’t.

    To Abdal Hakim Jamaican assuming you are of jamaican background what have you done to help your people? do you care about the issues and problems faced by your community or is Kashmir more important? Different Muslim immigrants from the West have stuck togather within their own groups to preserve their culture, language, identity and help each other from getting married to opening up businesses. If you are suffering from an identity crisis and you are knocking on the doors of the Arabs and Asian to accept you as one of them just because you are a muslim, I suggest you stop wasting your time. A man who rejects his identity and history cannot influence the future nor is he equal to the one who embraces it.

    If black culture is evil as Aboo Abdillah H put it then people like Abdur Rahman are seeking for a solution, change, enlightenment and to uplift their community. They dont bury their heads in the sand or run. Nelson Mandela could have accepted the white race as supreme and avoided 27 years in jail so could Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. If both of you are black then its truly sad that you have such mentality.

  42. gess says:

    Keep digging in!!! Abdur-Rahman M

  43. Br. Aboo Abdillah H, wouldn’t it be better to describe the fisq you speak of (drugs, BET, etc) as “the lowly state of mind which the West has forced its minorities into” instead of “black culture”? Our brothers and sisters in Muslim Africa have nothing to do with the culture you mentioned… so it is not fair nor just to label this fisq and fasaad as “black culture”…

    Furthermore… as Muslims, can we not fathom that one’s closeness to the Prophet SAWS can be a sort of virtue?? Don’t we have a bit more respect for people who are “syed” (in desi terms)… or for the Ahl ul-Bayt and the descendants of the Prophet SAWS… don’t we somehow expect a little more from such people in terms of deen? If the virtue (fadeelah) of the Arabic nation is understood in that way (as it is the nation from which the Prophet SAWS descended, and the nation which first received the final message of Islam)… can’t we just understand that we have a certain amount of respect for this nation due to that? Not dissimilar to the respect one would have for someone who is a direct descendant of the Prophet SAWS. How is that racism?!? Of course, the most honorable in the sight of our Rabb is the one with the most taqwa… no one denies that at all. And, subhanAllah, if I am understanding this issue correctly, I don’t think any of our scholars believe that a person’s race will help him at all on the Day of Judgment! In those terms, there is no difference between any race… a “syed” will be just as accountable before Allah SWT (if not MORE accountable for having been given the blessing of this blessed lineage) than a non-syed… subhanAllah!

    Please, brothers and sisters… stop calling things racism when they clearly are not! This simply is not racism… we love our Prophet SAWS, and we recognize that there is some virtue of being near to him… even in lineage! How is that so hard to understand!

  44. May Allah forgive me if I am incorrect in my understanding. Ameen.

  45. Also… I am neither Arab nor black… I am Irani.🙂 (and, subhanAllah, actually most Iranians are racist against Arabs!)

  46. Zaid says:

    bismillaah hir rahman nir raheem
    asalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu ikhwaan, i want to remind everyone that Muslims are civilized human beings, and among the blacks, whites, pakistanis, and many others from culturally non arab countries are also Arabs but werent born Arabs but became Arabs, who have sought out to learn the arabic language fluently who translate books into english, spanish, urdu, chinese, swahili etc… and so on. And you will find among the blacks, whites and spanish and others in america who revert to Islaam who are amongst the best of the muslims, in eeman, practice, seeking of knowledge, spreading it and loving it, and letting us muslims who are born into Islaam increase our faith and see the victory of Islaam by Allaah making their foothold strong in the deen, We see those brothers who revert to Islaam and mashallaah your eeman goes way up, when you listen to them speak about Islaam and how they came to Islaam and how they have a strong hunger to learn Islaam than us born muslims, you get tears in your eyes. “All of you are descendants of Aadam and Aadam came from dirt.”And Allaah says in His Noble Book what means “O Mankind! We have created you from a male and female, and made you into nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you in the Sight of Allah is the believer who has the most piety. Verily Allaah is All Knowing, All-Aware” So don’t stereotype anyone and remember racism is from shaytan when he claimed to be better than us “Humans” (not black, white, brown, n Yellow) with pride and arrogance, and I would tell all racists, nationalists, tribalists etc.. to “go and bite on the head of their fathers penis and don’t sugar coat their statement” (dont make their racist words seem beautified)(Bukhari;Adab al Mufrad) As for all the racist pride and arrogant people who look down at the arabs and the arabic language, you have lost a great deal, because in your heart you have sought to stem away from learning Arabic, so you have prevented access to your self from the doors of knowledge. So woe to your major loss. I believe this is what abu usamah intends in the article to make people understand the virtue of arabic the key to knowledge, the language of the day of judgement and the language of the Prophet salallahu alayhe wasalam. May Allaah guide us upon the correct understanding ameen.

  47. Zaid says:

    The Term “Arab” Means Muslim After Islaam
    December 26, 2007 ·
    By Shaykh ‘Abdur-Rasheed Azhar
    Transcribed by Aboo Uthmaan [1] & [2]
    After praising Allaah and sending prayers upon the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) Dr. Azhar said:
    ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) wrote to Aboo Moosaa al-Asharee (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) and said: “Understand the Sunnah and understand the Arabic language because the Qur’aan is in Arabic.”
    Brothers and sisters, our talk in this blessed evening is on the Arabic language and the importance of learning and teaching it. However, before I begin with the topic, it’s important to know who the Arabs are and what the Arabic language is.
    The word “Arab” has an old and new usage. This terminology went through various periods in history in regards to its meaning with the scholars of the Arabic language.
    Before Islam, it was used to mean anyone that lives in the Arabian Peninsula. This was mentioned by Shaykh-ul-Islam ibn Taymiyyah is his book, Iqtidah as-Siraat-ul-Mustaqim:
    The Term “Arab” was used for the people who had three characteristics:
    1) Their language was Arabic,
    2) They were from the children of the Arabs,
    3) Their residence was in the land of the Arabs, the Arabian Peninsula.
    After the coning of Islam and its spread in the world, this term was used to mean a Muslim. If it was said that a person was an Arab it meant he was a Muslim.
    Ibn Taymiyyah quoted Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn ‘Alee ibn Hussein bin ‘Alee who said: “Whoever is born in Islam is an Arab.”
    It has been reported upon the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) that he said: “Whoever loves the Arabs, then due to my love they love them, and whoever hates the Arabs then due to my hatred, they hate them.”
    Perhaps the Messenger (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) meant with the “Arabs” the Muslims. This word then acquired another meaning and was used for anyone who spoke the Arabic language.
    It was narrated upon the Messenger (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) that he ascended the mimbar, praised Allaah and then said: “O mankind! Surely the Lord is one Lord, the father is one father the deen is one deen. Surely Arabic is not for anyone of you due to a father or a mother, it is only a language. Whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab.”
    It has been narrated upon Abu Hurayrah (radee Allaahu ‘anhu), marfu’an: “As long as you speak Arabic then you are an Arab.
    So the term “Arabic” ended up referring to a language and not an ethnicity. Whoever learned and spoke Arabic, no matter from where he came or from which ethnicity he belonged to he was an Arab. If one did not learn or speak Arabic then he is a non-Arab even if his forefathers were from the pure Arabs. So being an Arab is not an inherited trait but rather an earned trait. Hence, it is a reference to the language and not to an ethnicity or lineage.
    The importance of this language, the Arabic language, like other international languages, is that it has a great role in the transmission of knowledge between continents. It also has a great role in international social, academic, political and economic relations. In addition, it has great importance to a Muslim’s life in specific since Allaah has chosen it for His great Book, the lasting miracle of the Prophet Muhammad (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). And He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) mentioned this language in a praiseworthy manner when He mentioned in His revelation:
    “And truly, this (the Qur’aan) is a revelation from the Lord of the ‘Alameen (mankind, jinn’s and all that exists), which the trustworthy Rooh [Jibrael (Gabriel)] has brought down; Upon your heart (O Muhammad SAW) that you may be (one) of the warners, in the plain Arabic language.” (Ash-Shu’ara 26:192-195)
    He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) also said:
    “And indeed We have put forth for men, in this Qur’aan every kind of similitude in order that they may remember. An Arabic Qur’aan, without any crookedness (therein) in order that they may avoid all evil which Allaah has ordered them to avoid, fear Him and keep their duty to Him.” (Az-Zumar 39:27-28)
    And:
    “Verily, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur’aan in order that you may understand.” (Yusuf 12:2)
    And:
    “And indeed We know that they (polytheists and pagans) say: ‘It is only a human being who teaches him (Muhammad SAW).’ The tongue of the man they refer to is foreign, while this (the Qur’aan) is a clear Arabic tongue.” (An-Nahl 16:103)
    And:
    “And if We had sent this as a Qur’aan in a foreign language other than Arabic, they would have said: ‘Why are not its Verses explained in detail (in our language)? What! (A Book) not in Arabic and (the Messenger) an Arab?’ Say: ‘It is for those who believe, a guide and a healing. And as for those who disbelieve, there is heaviness (deafness) in their ears, and it (the Qur’aan) is blindness for them. They are those who are called from a place far away (so they neither listen nor understand)’.” (Fussilat 41:44)
    And other verses.
    Allaah revealed this blessed Book in the best language and in the best composition. He gathered in His Verses pearls of eloquence. He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) challenged a people who were proud of their inherited eloquence and beauty in poetry composition. He challenged them to produce a chapter like the Qur’aan and to call upon witnesses besides Allaah. He challenged them with the smallest of chapters, challenged the orators from the pure Arabs. They, however, failed and were not able to produce a chapter like the Qur’aan.
    The Qur’aan will remain inshaa’Allaah, the Book of Allaah, always fresh whenever the recite turns to it and ponders over its rich meanings. Its wonders never cease, as one of the scholars said, and he is Sahl ibn ‘Abdullaah: “If the slave will be given for ever letter of the Qur’aan one thousand insights, he will not reach the end of what Allaah has stored in one verse, because it is the speech of Allaah, and His speech is His attribute. As there is no end to Allaah, there is no end to the wisdom of His words. Everyone will only grasp the amount that Allaah opens his heart to. The words of Allaah are not creation.
    Inclusive in the miracle of the Qur’aan is its eloquence and explanation, and this is all from the Arabic language. Therefore, it is not possible for anyone to understand its interpretation and obtain its fine meanings and comprehend its rulings except through proficiency in its base. And its base is the Arabic language along with its science: grammar, morphology and balaghah. From here, the importance of learning Arabic and its sciences is manifested since by it one can understand the Qur’aan and achieve what Allaah has intended for His slaves in this life and the next.
    Let it not be the case with any student of knowledge, especially in our times that they feel that they can dispense and distance themselves from this language. Unfortunately, some reprimand others for learning this language and being busy in studying it. The eye tears and the heart grieves for those that have appeared in the field of deen, da’wah and recitation and they do not consider learning and teaching the Arabic language. They do not make amends in their use of the Arabic language and as a result they make grammatical errors while quoting the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and there is no power or might except by Allaah.
    So may Allaah reward with all good those that have stood up with concern for the Arabic language. Learning the Arabic language is from the good following of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). The Muslims are commanded to follow and emulate the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) in his life and characteristics. And from the good following of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam), of every Muslim is to learn and teach the Arabic language because the Prophetic Sunnah is in this language. It is the second source of Islamic law cannot be disassociated from the primal source which is the Qur’aan. It is not possible to understand the meanings or actions without the Sunnah that came to explain the Book of Allaah. Allaah (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) said:
    “And We have revealed unto you the dhikr so you may explain to mankind what was revealed to them.” Imaam al-Hakim and others reported that the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “I have been given the Qur’aan and its similarity along with it.”
    The Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) excelled in eloquence and speech, as we mentioned he said: “I was sent with comprehensive yet concise speech.” As narrated by Abu Hurayrah (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) and complied by al-Bukhaaree.
    From the obligation of the Muslim caller is to spread and convey the Sunnah of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) amongst the people, so how can he spread the Sunnah and convey the hadeeth if he doesn’t know the language of the one who spoke the hadeeth? For this reason, the pious predecessors gave concern to learning and teaching the Arabic language in grammar, morphology, i’arab and bayan.
    It was narrated upon Abu Bakr as-Sadiq (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) that he said: “Learning the i’arab of the Qur’aan is more beloved to me than learning its letters.” ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) said in his well known statement: “Learn the Arabic language because it is part of your deen, and learn the faraaid because it is part of your deen.” The noble companion ‘Ubay bin K’ab (radee Allaahu ‘anhu) said: Learn the Arabic language then you will learn how to memorise the Noble Qur’aan.” Hussein ibn ‘Alee said: “Learn the Arabic language, for it is the language of Allaah which He will address the people with on the Day of Judgement.” Although this has been narrated it is questionable as Ibn Qayyim mentioned in his Nuniyah: There has come that the best of languages is the Arabic language, but the chain of the narration is questionable.”
    Imaam al-Hasan al-Basree was asked: “What do you say about a group of people learning the Arabic language?” Meaning they are busy in learning the Arabic language. He said: “They have done well. They are learning the language of their Prophet.” These scholars have seen speaking in the Arabic language as one of the symbols of Islam and the Muslims. Ibn Taymiyyah said: “The Arabic language is a symbol of Islam and its people. A language is one of the greatest symbols of nations by which they are distinguished.”
    A group of people attended one of the gatherings of the famous Imaam and Muhadith Sulayman bin Mahran who is popularly known as ‘Amasah to hear ahaadeeth of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). So he asked them before anything else: “What day is it?” A man amongst them said: “Al-Ithnayn.” ‘Amash said: “Al-Ithnayn, al-Ithnayn?” Return and make i’arab of your statement. Learn the Arabic then seek the knowledge of the hadeeth.” Imaam ‘Amash intended for them to say: “Yawm-ul-Ithnayn.” The person cannot say “Al-Ithnayn” by itself, because “yawm” is the reason why “ithnayn” is majrur, so how can he make “al-ithnayn” majrur without a jaar?
    It is feared that one who makes grammatical errors in reading the hadeeth of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) to be amongst those that lie upon him. The famous linguistic scholar al-Asmaee said: The greatest thing that I fear for the student of knowledge is that if he does not know grammar (nahw) that he is included in the statement of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam): “Whoever lies upon me intentionally then let him take his seat in the fire.” That is so because the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) did not make grammatical errors in hadeeth, so if you narrate upon him and make grammatical errors then you have lied upon him. Ibn Salah mentioned this in his Muqadimah. Yes, one can say if one doesn’t intend to make grammatical errors that he is not intentionally lying, The answer is that anyone who knows that they are not proficient in i’rab and then chooses to mention the Book of Allaah or a hadeeth of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) and does so by making grammatical errors in either one of them, then he has intentionally chosen to lie. So those that say: “Safeguarding the principles prevents one from falling into means that lead to the prohibited”, their statement here is emphasised. No doubt that the stringent position from some of the scholars is to shut the doors for such errors, and due to people commonly committing them.
    And Allaah knows best and His knowledge is more accurate and precise. I ask Allaah for tawfiq and accuracy in the deen, and an increase in knowledge of Islam and its language. And Allaah is the Grantor of success. Was-salaamu ‘alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh.
    Transcribers Footnotes:
    [1] You can watch and listen to the recorded video lecture of the Shaykh in Arabic along with its English subtitles, subtitles that I used for this transcription at: http://www.knowledgeofislam.com
    [2] NB: This is not a verbatim transcription

  48. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Ahmad

    May Allaah guide all of us ameen. The black culture is not virtuous. The African Muslims are MUSLIM and have moved away from black culture as a Muslim should do. A Muslim should have nothing to do with black culture of drugs, “baby mommas”, crime ridden streets, laziness and such things. They love this and celebrate it. This is why I get upset when someone refers to me as a “African-American”. This is lumping me in with this evil that Islaam is against and I reject it.

  49. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    yes LEILA i was born in jamaica and they are not my people nor the black, white, arabs, Latina in america. my people are the salafi muslim in jamaica and in america of all races (this islam not black islam why all u black people hearts so black with black nationalism)

  50. Bro Khalil-Detroit says:

    It is ajeeb(amazing) how some people can, in the name of Islam, contradict Islam. If I did not find that the Quran acknowledges the fact that we all belong to a distinct peoples I would be incline to do away with all superficial affiliations myself. However, the Quran identifies the people who invented homosexuality as qaumu Loot(the people of Lot). This certainly does not imply that Nabi Lut was guilty of their iniquitous behavior. It does however acknowledge that, because of His lineage and geographical location, He belonged to the same people. Allah (SWT) Himself has said that He sent a messenger to every people implying multiplicity. Muslims Need To Stop Going To Extremes. The Prophet (SAW) warned us saying that, who ever goes to extremes in religion will not be able to continue that way. I would caution the Ummah to beware of those who speak this way; their ultimate aim might just be to cause dissention in our ranks.

  51. MV says:

    Subhan Allah. Theres just so much to digest in this article and in the comments that were made that its really hard to know where to start.
    First off this is a very very old and might I say tired article that has been in circulation for years. Im talking at least 5 years and it didnt cause a ripple back then…so why should it create a wave now?
    I dont know if a lot of the commentators actually read the article and subsequent comments simply because of what they said. The sunnah has a lot of arab customs because that is the nature of the sunnah of our prophet(Saw). It consists of sayings and actions of the Prophet and that includes some customs that were peculiar to the Arabs at that time.
    So it shouldnt be surprising that a lot of customs in Islam have arab foundations.
    Im grossly offended by Abu Abdillahs comments..you are an example of that “ghuloo” that the brother Abu Usamah was talking about. How is it ok to denegrate an entire people to propogate your own opinion? As a black woman.Im deeply offended.You are a self hating black man. I actually feel sorry for you. To hate what you are must be a terrible cross to bear.
    I have to thank Brother Shibli for bringing the additional words of Ibn Taymeeyah. Its important to see everything in context. I agree that the need to take things out of context is a tactic that is used universally to promote(again) an agenda. In this case..that Arabs are better period. Are we talking about the same Arabs who used to bury their daughters alive? The same arabs that used to whirl and twirl around the Kaba naked? The same Arabs that threw animal entrails on the back of the Prophet(Alayhis As Salat Wa Salaam) ..The same arabs that had up to ten wives and treated them unjustly? Are THESE the arabs that we all should fall subservient to? Or are the scholars referring to the flexibility and strength of the Arabic Language in that one small word can mean a lot. Or that the Arabs had traditions that lent itself to maintaining and preserving the Sunnah and Quraan..Biithin Alllah? We need to be sure and certain on exactly what we mean when we say “Arabs are Superior.
    And honestly? I think Abu Usamah wrote this KNOWING it was going to ruffle feathers and create debate. Otherwise most of what he said really didnt have to be said. Wa Allahu Alim.
    Faisal…I dont know what to say about what you said. My mother bought me clothes. It wasnt any Arab. Again its amazing how the xenophobic ones latch onto these issues to satisfy their own racist views. Where else should a serious student go to study if not the land of the 2 haraams? Your words are nonsensical and Im sorry that your mother didnt raise you better than you prove yourself to be on this blog. Shame on you

  52. MV says:

    P.S I have it on good authority that the majority of his wives were NOT arab so it makes no sense at all trying to label him a “House Nigga” which is what I believe the author of this blog was trying to infer.
    Wsalaamu Alaykum

  53. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    MV:

    All I am saying is that the black culture is something reprehensible. What Muslim in his/her correct mind would want to be a part of such a “culture”? Their culture does not produce a civilized environment and produces insane violence and immorality. Do you want to associate yourself with that or do you want to associate yourself with a culture that produces kids that memorize the Qur’an, people that wait to get married before having sex and babies, and modest people. Compare the culture of Saudi Arabia with the culture of the blacks and tell me which one is more Islamic and who is more worthy of being imitated. You tell me

  54. Abu Usamah al-Aswad says:

    Assalaamu Alaykum,

    As Abdul Jabbar states in the very first post the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in his last khutbah negates this whole notion by saying “La Fadhla li-Arabiyyin ala Ajamiyyim, wa la Ahmarin ala Aswadin illa bit-Taqwa,” that should have ended this discussion.

    Aboo Abdillah H, Abul Qayyim, Hassan As-Salafee,

    While the initial point of the post was the ‘Afdhaliyyah’ or superiority of the Arabs over the ‘Ajamees’ (Non-Arabs), which includes ALL non-Arabs. For some reason sadly the discussion has regressed to another Arab vs Black debate. What is even sadder is how some have formed the logic that Arab culture = Islamic culture and Black culture = jahiliyyah culture therefore to be Muslim one must totally negate all vestiges of Black culture.

    To prove the point destructive behavior among Blackamericans such as drug use (crack), half-dressed dancing women (BET) and mindless killing (drive-bys) have all been alluded to. Yet how in the hell is “smoking the shisha” or chewing qat any different from the smoking a crack pipe or chew tobacco, they’re all haram! As far as I concerned half-naked belly dancing is no different from what’s on BET. As for mindless killing anyone call whats been going on in the Middle East “mindful” how is that any less than “set trippin” LOL some of them wear different color khifeyyahs to rep their set.

    The point should be clear destructive behavior is destructive behavior and all cultures have aspects that are unIslamic which should be avoided. No culture (including Arab) is totally halal. Muslims should have love for other Muslims period.

    To think Arab culture or any culture is intrinsically superior to any other culture is from jahiliyyah. Scholars of Islam from the time after the Prophet Muhammad (saws) have attempted to purge the deen of this of jahiliyyah. al-Jahiz (d. 225 AH/ 869 AD) wrote Fadhl al-Sudan ala al-Bidan to address the issue. Interestingly enough though many who claim salafiyyah are fond of quoting (often out of context) from Talbis Iblis by Ibn Al-Jawzi (d. 597 AH/1200 AD) few even know he wrote Tanwir al-Ghabash fi Fadhl al-Sud wal-Habash again addressing the issue. Even Imam Al-Suyuti (d. 911 AH/1505 AD) wrote a Raf‘ Sha’n al-Habashah addressing this same issue.

    Saddest of all is that these misguided souls act as if Arab and Black (dark skin pigmentation) are mutually exclusive and the so

    I love my Muslim Arab brothers but when misguided Blackamericans encourage our Arab brothers to take this superior attitude, this increases the likelihood of them getting hurt, because calling brothers I know “abeed” is a sure way to get their “grill” pushed back or an “eye-jammy”. So can’t we all just get along…

    (Deeeetroit!!!!)

  55. MV says:

    Wow…I had to peer back…Jazak Allahu Khair. That was truly awesome.

  56. […] are “irredeemably evil” and other such non-sense (from blacks no less) we read in the comments here, look at this story of a little black (yes BLACK) girl who took a bullet trying to save her mother […]

  57. MV says:

    Abu Abdillah…ALL cultures that support a cullture of debauchery is reprehensible but to single out black culture as the main one is incorrect. Im happy to be a Muslima and Im happy to be a Black Woman. Being Muslim doesnt mean you suddenly lose all sense of self. Im happy with the valuable things that I was taught from My culture. How to cook. How to clean house. How to dress. I wasnt raised in a culture of set tripping and the majority of black people werent raised in that culture either. To denigrate your own race is foolish and childish..not to mention you play into the hands of those racists who use the likes of you as a Posterchild for the idea that ..even black folks dont want to be black.
    Wsa

  58. DC Muslimah says:

    ASA. Very good points Abu Usamah al-Aswad! Mashallah!

  59. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    MV and others,

    If you look at what I said, the Arab culture is CLOSER to the Sunnah than other cultures. Which culture is closer to Sunnah? The Saudis or the blacks in America?

  60. Yosef Davis says:

    salam walakum
    first I would like to say a am pride to be apart of the race who constructed the pyramids, whom all races have come from. adam from dark clay we are all children of adam, the black race was the first and it has been proven scientifically, Does this statement contradict the Quran? Some black muslims try to be Arab due to lack of knowledge. Nobody taught them about the West African empire of Timbuktu were the islamic scolarship was just as strong in the Middle East. The moors invaded Sicily the Italians have a hard time coming to gribs with the fact they were invaded by africans. And some Arabs try yo take credit for the constributions that the african Moors did in europe. Sicle cell is noted to be a black disease, in southern sicily italians have many reported cases,what does that tell you? Im not going to counteract this igrorance by attacking Arab culture but i must state that prophet ishmeal pbuh mother was an african women yes the mother of the Arabs was black, Haggar

  61. Kwame Madden says:

    For those of you who have chosen to denigrate African people I ask you then why would our Beloved Prophet[peace and blessings be upon him] chose Ethopia for the place of refuge among the sahabah.Also this land was considered a land of truth along with its king.I ask you racist and inferior complex brother and sisters did he
    Rasullah Sallallahu alaihi wasallam make a mistake in this matter.

    Shaykh Abdullah Hakeem Quick has two beautiful dvds Ethopia the untold story and Timbuktu the journey to the empire of knowledge.
    These two dvds dispells the fiction that only scholarship is confine to the one area of the world and that it.The problem with many of the students of knoowledge of Africian descent coming from America is
    that they think imitating or taking on the Gulf states cultures is some
    demarcation line in defining them in what a authenic muslim should
    look like and how he should think.This blog that Abdur Rahman has
    started and Tariq Nelson blog are the beginnings of the new freedom
    movement amongst muslims of Africian descent in this country.
    No longer will we accept second and third class citzensship in our own country of orgin.We will fight tooth and nail to gain our proper place without apolgizing.

  62. MV says:

    Abu Abdillah…You denigrated the entire black race and Im not african american so you didnt offend me based on national pride. You offended me because you generalized.
    As for the arab culture being closer..thats called SUNNAH. Its Ilm 101. The Sunnah is filled with adopted practices of the Pre-Islam arabs. Simple things like how they ate. What they wore.
    As for the Saudis….yes in generality that is true.But there are also saudi gays, saudi murtads, saudi drug users, prostitutes and pimps. Its all there Ahkee….just because its saudi ..it doesnt mean its better. What defines us as muslims is our taqwa and desire to adhere to Islam NOT(As far as Im concerned) where we are from. LIke Allah says in the Quraan..He made us different so we might know one another.
    Wsalaam

  63. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    MV:

    BLACK is a culture and a way of thinking. I am Muslim and Salafi walillah lilhamd and I am free from all of that. Can you all not see that a Muslim should free themselves from that? You are making my point that the Arab culture is better because it is filled with Sunnah. The later things (dancing and such) are things that we leave. The Saudis put down the gays and such thing because it is AGAINST Islam and their culture. Things that are imported. The blacks’ culture is not like this and this is why we should leave it

  64. Abdur-Rahman Muhammad says:

    Please to everyone,

    I suggest you don’t engage Abu Abdillah H anymore on this topic because the man is clearly ignorant and lacks even a rudimentary level of education. Unfortunately he may be just an irredeemable casualty, both of his own self-hatered and the racist poison brought back to this country by the Ubu Usamahs of the world. Let us focus on the ones that perhaps, by Allah’s permission, can be saved.

    By the way, I am almost positive that one of the above respondents is in fact Abu Usama, but regardless, I do know that he is aware of this post. Let him attempt to openly defend this racist crap in the hallways of academia. Yeah, thats what I thought. He has to smuggle it through an email or demagogue it down the throats of poor, uneducated, mostly ex-felons who can’t defend themselves. Shame on people like him! Now that this rank ideological fecal matter has reached the light of day, let him defend it in the light of day! Let him show up at Howard University for example and tell an entire audience of well educated members of his own race that “the Arabs are racially superior to Blacks”. Nuff said.

  65. Nafis Bouie says:

    In America “White” and “Black” are sociologically constructed ideas that have presumed patterns of behavoir relegated to them. The colors (white & black) are not the actual hues of any humans in this country or anywhere else. All Anglo European Americans, early in our (USA) history were ascribed with “Whiteness.” Thus, “White” assumed the meaning of good, rich, land owning, wholesome family structure, educated, clean environment, etc. Thus, by extension all Ethnic European Americans (Jews, Italians, Polish, etc) assumed “Whiteness.” “Black,” conversely took meanings such as bad, poor, broken family, uneducated, ghetto, etc, thus by extension all Americans of African ancestry assumed the ascription of “Blackness” The sickness and (Taghoot) of White supremacy is that all virtuous acts are ascribed to “Whiteness,” thus by extension, to all “White” people including all “White”/abyad/bayda Arabs. This is why many Near eastern immigrants to the USA dare not ascribe to “Black,” Asian, or other, on their visas to the USA. They check the “White” box, albeit their darker hues in pigmentaion. White supremacy masked as globilization has swept the near east as evidenced by commonly used words as zunuj, takrooni, and abeed being sociologically ascribed to “Blacks” only.

  66. Brotherman says:

    Yeah, thats what I thought. He has to smuggle it through an email or demagogue it down the throats of poor, uneducated, mostly ex-felons who can’t defend themselves.

    Are you saying that all black salafis are ex-felons?
    Or is it just that you are innately more intelligent then them to be able to see past the lies, and so have come to deliver them from evil?

    Either way this all reeks of elitism and opposition to basic islamic ettiquite.

  67. MV says:

    Abdur Rahman…Why is it when people seek to advise others they do so always falling into their own self-made holes? I’m far from Abu Usamah’s number 1 fan..but that doesnt mean I’m going to be unjust. If hes incorrect in his doings hes going to be in front of His Rabb…just like you are.
    The words of the Ulema are like it or lump it…the words of the Ulema. They will be held accountable for their words as well as you and I…as well as Abu Usamah so theres NO Need to accuse him of being a a main carrier of “this” brand of poison. Its clear that self hatred is prevalent in the USA without any one person held accountable for adding to it. Abu Abdillah is proof of that fact.
    Maybe Abu Usamah wasnt loved enough. Maybe he grew up in an all white neighborhood. Who knows. WHo cares? The man has the right to his opinion.
    Yea Im pretty sure Brother A is him too but so what? If he wants to defend himself…Oh well. Let him. He has every right to defend himself from the Overzealous words in the original post.
    I would if it was me.
    I dont see why a muslim is going to go to a kaafir university even if it is Howard to defend himself. That wouldnt even make sense.
    Anyways Wish Y’all the best. Think all that needs to be said is said .
    Wsalaamu Alaykum

  68. Abdur-Rahman Muhammad says:

    As Salaam Alaikum MV,

    Sister, the point is that while Abu Usama is undoubtedly a bright person, he’s also a demagogue and a bully, a self-hating one at that. Those who dish it out should be able to take it. As I understand it, he is still an Imam in England and is not here to witness the havoc and destruction that his irresponsible Salafi era leadership has wrought. It is interesting, and tells me alot about the man himself, that you, a non-African American women have to defend him while he himself refuses to take ownership of his own repugnant teachings.

    By the way, both Sheikhs Bilal Phillips and Abdullah Hakim Quick hold Ph.ds from what you call “kafir universities”. Quite frankly, I find this level of anti-intellectualism among certain groups of Muslims nauseating. Did we accept this religion to become FOOLS?

    “Knowledge is the lost property of the believer and he has the right to claim it wherever he finds it”. (hadith)

  69. MV says:

    Wa Alaykum Assalam
    Your statement about my being a non African American was needless and had no place in this discussion.
    I only mentioned it to make a point that was relevant.
    You mentioned it to make a cheap dig at Abu Usamah. I dont agree with his words but I dont agree with yours either. Thats called me being a mature, intelligent individual making her own decisions based on what she knows and has read. Its easy.
    Im sorry but I heard the same tapes and read the same letter that everyone else read 5 years ago and even though it didnt sit right with me…I knew with the modicum of sense that Allah blessed me with that this was based on some kalam of the ulema.
    Thats why I said Like it or lump it.It is what it is.
    Im sure you knew what point I was making about the universities. Just to clarify in case you didnt get it…what I am saying is why would He debate the value of this statement”Arabs are better” with a non muslim who wont use words of the scholars to refute? I mean its like asking an art students opinion on whether E REALLY equals Mc squared. You address these issues with the people who have knowledge.
    And to answer your rhetorical question…My momma didnt raise no fool and Im far from being anti intellecualism.
    Im just anti-stupidity and anti-being unjust for no reason but not liking a brother.
    Thats called balance Ahkee. You need to get a hold of some.
    Take Care. Wsalaam.

  70. As salaamu ‘alaikum,

    Thanks to Br Abdur-Rahman for the original post. The position expressed by the Sheikh was bad enough, but the many defenses I have read of that view, that “Arabs are better than everyone else”, have been much worse, quite sickening to my spirit as a human and as a Muslim.

    If we really want to get racial, we could point out that the Qur’an says, in the original Arabic text “Al-‘Aarabuu ashaduul Kufran wa Nifaaqa” [9:97] meaning “The Arabs are the worse in hypocrisy and rejection”.

    No one has made that reference when speaking about their alleged superiority. Of course, the verse is not talking about the whole race of Arabs, but about Bedouins in the Prophet’s time who pretended to adopt the faith, but nonetheless we see how texts can be twisted to fit hitler-type thinking.

    Frankly, if any of the Imams of the past held such ideas, they were dead wrong! Its against the Qur’an, against numerous reports from the Prophet [Saws] and just plain illogical and stupid! My faith is in Allah and his revelation called the Qur’an, and not some legends that have no application for my spiritual life at all.

  71. Abu Usamah al-Aswad says:

    Salaams

    A few quick questions and comments.

    Br. Dawud,
    Can you site the negative remarks about Blacks by Imam Malik bin Anas Imam Ash-Shafi’i?

    Aboo Abdillah H,
    My brother in Islam you have confused the glory of Islam with the culture and they are not one and same.

    Brother A,
    You’ve mentioned that this was old news, when did the Salafi start placing a “shelf life” on their statments? If Imam Aboo Usaamah Ath-Thahabee has indeed moved away from being in “lock step” with the salafi scholars in this notion then this should be made clear.

    MV
    Thanks for the comments I just re-read the post and all of the reply’s LOL like I really had the time. Anyway my Br Abdur-Rahman and I have went back and forth before about his need to engage in hyperbally in his criticisms of others — I guess it creates interest so he persists. Nevertheless he does have a point in people pushing this should be called out.

    Br. Shamsuddin
    In fairness you should quote the next few ayats as well as in order to convey the full mean less you fall error as when Aboo Usaamah partically quoted ibn Taymiyyah also it is even more dangerous since you are Quoting Qur’an. I think many know of the ayat but I feel parsing Qur’an on blogs should be avoided

  72. Abdal Hakeem jamaican says:

    why so much hate for the salafi muslim from all you black muslim and your blogs like this one &(salafiburnout), as one of the many salafi brothers & sister in D.C.,MD,BM, we are still strong with the help of Allaah(swt) & salafi dawah i never been to jail nor do i have any babymothers i am good salafi muslim who goes to Prince George community college and learning the deen of sahabah(may allah(swt) be pleased with them) & the dawah of the salafiyyh

    (Aboo usaamah is not on the salafi dawah no more)

  73. Nafis Bouie says:

    In an important work on law, judicature and government, the great Egyptian jurist of the Maliki school, Shihab al-Din al-Qarafi (d.684/1285) is asked the following question:
    What is the correct view regarding those rulings upheld in the school of Malik, al-Shafi’i and the rest, which have been deduced on the basis of habits and customs prevailing at the time these jurists reached these conclusions? When these customs change and the practice comes to indicate the opposite of what it used to, are the legal rulings recorded in the manuals of the jurists rendered defunct, it becoming incumbent to issue new rulings based on the new custom? Or is it to be said, “We are mere followers of the independent, authoritative jurists. It is thus not our place to innovate new rulings, as we lack the qualifications to do so. Therefore, we issue rulings according to what we find in the books handed down on the authority of the independent, authoritative jurists?”. In his answer, al-Qarafi emphatically affirms that a ruling remains valid only as long as the custom or circumstances on which it was based remains in tact and retains the same implications it had at the time the ruling was originally reached. Thus, he responds:

    Holding to rulings that have been deduced on the basis of custom, even after this custom has changed, is a violation of Unanimous Consensus and an open display of ignorance of the religion.

  74. abuusama says:

    Without a doubt european colonization of the middle east followed by great oil wealth has exacerbated latent notions of “Arab” supremacy with in both dark and light complexioned Arabs towards Non-Arabs, but particularlly in SOME of the lighter or “White” Arabs towards Blacks.

    This racial bigotry was something that was never quite purged from Arabs. Aboo Abdillah is not the first nor will he be the last to confuse the glory of Islam with the superiority Arabic culture (though he now says “closer to the sunnah” I didn’t know that was a Salafi category. What I understood was that a person was either “upon it” or not ) nor will he be the last.

    While I do not asscribe to the notion that there is a C. O. N. priacy against Blacks (LOL), however there is a tendency to marginalize the contributions and to reduce the visibility of Non-Arabs, especially in the portrayal of Blacks in prominent participation in historical events of Islam. Let’s take the ubiquitous movie “The Message” for example.

    Many Blackamerican reverts upon taking shahada have replaced watching “The Ten Commandments” every Easter (so let it be written, so let it be done LOL), with watching “The Message” every Ramadan or even more often.

    The depiction of some sahaba notwithstanding According the distributors Islamic scholars approved the movie as being accurate.

    The Scholars and Historians of islam —
    The University of Al-Azhar in Cairo
    The High Islamic Congress of the Shiat in Lebanon
    — have approved the accuracy and fidelity of this film

    Seemly both Sunni and Shia said it was sound and all seems well right, well… wrong!

    Although the movie is fairly accurate nick picking aside. Their was as fair amount of “whitewashing” in the film.

    To me it was a serious omission to leave out of the film, the fact that during the hijra to Madinah that Salim the mawla of Abu Hudhayfa (who happened to have been Black) led the Muhajirun in salaat.

    Then at ghazwat Badr in what has to be the most important battle in Islam, how is it that the first Muslim Mihja’ bin Salih (who happened to have been Black) to be martyred in the battle and Al-Miqdad bin al-Aswad (who happened to have been Black) the only one who even had a horse are both totally excluded?

    Yet those omissions are only minor compared to the using of a european white actor to portray Zayd ibn Harith (who happened to have been Black) the adopted son of the Prophet (saws), who was among the main Muslim speakers in the movie. According to Ibn Jawzi, Zayd was a short man, very Black and with a flat nose. Furthermore while Zayd is talking throughout the movie not once do they show his son Usamah.

    I’m not going to even comment them using Zorba the Greek (actually Mexican) to play Hamza.

    Lastly, I leave with this on the day of the conquest of Mecca the Prophet (saws) rode into Mecca on his camel with Usamah ibn Zayd (who happened to have been Black) on back. Once he got to the Kaba he made his camel kneel down, then he told Uthman ibn Talha to open the doors to the Kaba. Then the Prophet (saws) entered the Kaba with Usamah ibn Zayd, Bilal ibn Rabah (who happened to have been Black) and Uthman ibn Talha and locked it behind him and stayed there for some time — talk about an iconoclastic moment. Now compare that to the movie.

    Now I know many are going say who cares what they looked like, its the content of the message that counts… Believe me I’ve heard it all before only previously it was Christians explaining how accepting the image of white Jesus dosent matter. To that I say why not just portray the sahaba as Chinese or Latino if we really want to be inclusive?

    At the end of day Islam is perfect. If anyone has a problem with the actual events then that their problem. But anyone promoting racial superiority should be called out not only the ones taking about the mythical big headed scientists

  75. abuusama says:

    my fingers and eyes hurt!!!!!!!!!!!!

  76. Word says:

    Abdul-Hakeem Jamaican

    Why do you have to hate blacks to become salafi? why the racial insults? do salafis believe that all blacks have “baby mommas” and such?

  77. Aboo Abdillah H says:

    Thanks Abdul Hakeem,

    There is no success in being BLACK. There is success in salafiyah. They’re at the bottom of the world’s list of races who have made any significant accomplishments.

    We must protect ourselves from their constant bombardment of disgusting ideas and undesirable things

  78. Dear BrAbu Usamah al aswad,

    I’m sorry, but I didn’t understand your comments about my statement.Quoting the whole verse, or speaking on the context, all of this would only served to strengthen my point. Islam is that which is given by Allah in the Qur’an, and exemplified by the messenger of Allah, to whom the Qur’an was sent, Muhammad. What Imam Abu Usama said was wrong, clearly against the Qur’an and Sunnah, and it does not matter to me if Ibn Taymiyyah had these views, as such views are clearly unIslamic!

    In the end, I think that the main issue is not really the racial overtones of the backwards self-hating racism of AbuUsama Ath-Thahabi, but following a way of thinking that does not allow for a critical examination of the texts and personalities of the past. In other words, we are somehow expected to accept concepts that are clearly hurtful and destructive just because those concepts were allegedly accepted by these historical figures.

    I have written a great deal about these issues in the past, and with the permission of Br Abdur-Rahman I would be happy to post links here to those writings, in the hope that some people will begin to reconsider these assumptions and come to see Islam as I see it, a dynamic force of spiritual freedom and liberation, a correction of the wrong ideas all of us had, both before the revelation of the Qur’an and afterwards.

    Regards,
    S.Waheed

  79. Abdul Hakeem jamaican says:

    word ask the ower of this blog and Tariq nelson blogs what i mean about salafi muslim & baby mothers they write alot of lies about salafi have all kinds of baby mothers and not work or take care of there kids that what my post was about

  80. Umm Zaid says:

    Salaam ‘Alaikum

    I normally would not stick a toe in this one, but a person called “Faisal” said something so arrogant (in add’n to his blatant racism) that I must.

    The Arabs did not grace Black people in Africa with Islam. Allah subhannahu wa ta’ala did, just like He graced and honored the Arabs with it. Anyone who’s received this diyn is honored, without exception. Not any of us merit anything b/c of our birthright. We receive the diyn b/c of HIS MERCY. Faisal, did you forget to whom you bow?

    If He used Arab traders to do it, then their descendants should put their heads to the floor and praise Him for this. Better yet, they should turn off the Rotana and the MBC and everything else that’s going on here in the Arab world so far from the diyn and follow their forefathers’ example instead of bragging on other people’s accomplishments. What point is there in bragging that you “gave the diyn” to Black people in Africa if so many among the Arabs are so far from it?

    Alhamdulillah ‘ala ni’matul ISLAM.

  81. Kwame Madden says:

    Abdul Hakeem get a grip on it.The statics atre startling concerning the divorces and going in out marriages and leaving babies behind.You my brother obviously are late comer cause if you
    were not you would already know this informationSome students
    of knowledge or callers to the dawah are guility themselves of this
    behaviour.If these ego driven islamic pop stars had any diginity they
    would take themselves out of leadership postions.Get real jobs and take care of there offsprings.Some even have the nerve to give speaches on the islamic family and what it should be like.They abuse the polygamy in the name of sister if you dont agree to this you are being disobedient.Some even leave the country to go get ilm why there babies become wards of the state.Or they might be imam now in another country why there seven to ten kids are still here .Finish college brother and dont become a static in this delusional on the
    haqq culture.

  82. gassus says:

    One thing that always disturbed me about some brothers in the northeast is the praising of Ibn Saud. The religous educated Saudis do not like these people themselves. Learn the Arabic language and the Deen and leave the rest. I lived in Saudi Arabia and the place is full of problems. Ibn Saud is Najdi tribalism wearing Islam as a cover. Aboo Abdillah take off your blind-fold BET and MTV is in Saudi Arabia big time. The Imams, police and authority in general there are clueless how to deal with the youth there.

  83. Kwame Madden says:

    Gassus Abdillah and Abdullah Hakeem need to defintenly take blinders off.The super duper salafi cult is on downfall. I personally have know problem with the aqeedah but the mentality that comes with it has got to go.Many of these brothers and sisters have know social and poltical awareness.To appreciate and have awareness of ones history is always labled nationalism.You made mentioned of the brothers in the North East praising Ibn Saud I begged to differ with you that this . It it true that some do but believe me this happens in the midwest and the south also.This small clique of super dupers are in midwest and the south.By the way Ibnsaud and Muhammad Wahab had many differences.Many of these supers choose not to talk about that.Your right brother Mtv and Bet reaches many places.
    Thank you, for your insightful comments .I hope to meet you one day.

  84. gassus says:

    Kwame, I did not mean only the brothers in the north-east but before King Fahd died they were chewing my ears off with praise of this man. He is dead and I will not talk about him. Topics like this are good because it gets us talking and to clear the air. Next it is time for action, InchaAllah

  85. Ahmizzo says:

    This is sad. I have been said that the so-called salafi dawah is a plague, a virus, nothing more than a bedouin cult.
    As for the inquries on the statements attributed to Imam Malik(R) that were deragatory towards blacks, those statements have long been discredited. Shaykh Muhammad Amin Shinquiti of Mauratania disproved them.
    As for getting into this sp-called debate with salafis its useless,I think they should all go to Nejd and just die.

  86. Abu Abdil Hameed says:

    This blog is an example of people who love to follow their desires, and twist things in order to suit them. May Allah guide you to that which is correct. Ameen.

    STOP LYING & FEAR ALLAH!

  87. unlissted says:

    Well….abdur rahman still digging up racist topics….first the hate and jealousy for brothers who marry moroccan ARAB women and a final attack and accusative slander on the lineage of the prophet muhammad(sellahu alayhi wa salaam) ahmizzo the caller to grave worship even wishes death on the salafees wow!!!!!…so gassus and his name is kwam’eeee…islamic aqeeda is not openly speaking against the rulers(democratic kufr aqeeda is the opposite) I hate to bust ya bubble super nationalists if one was research bilaal ibn rabah one will see his lineage was mixed…his father was arab and his mother was abysinian(seer alam nubula)….Was Ismaaell(alayhis salam) a arab???..Really abdur rahman I feel ya….but it isnt like that there is some logic and understanding to this and I think you need to research it properly….Shaykh Ali hasaan gave a hint to it…I believe the issue may return to that the choice of prophethood was with the arabs….but one cant think “pop music arab idols like amr diab(muslim) or nancy ajram(christian) are better then a religious black muslim who prays fullfills just the 5 pillars and the sunnah is less then the evil scum I previously mentioned?????????? I respect Shaykhul islam ibn taymeeyah……so did Shaikh Badee-ud deen,hamad ansari,umar fulaata,muhammad al jamee,albani and countless other scholars of salafeeyah who were NON-ARAB……..

  88. unlissted says:

    Nafees bouie (the bus driver) we thought you gave up dawah……all that false fiqh in regards to customs(urf) you ashari ,soofees only use that to stay on black ghetto crap…..dragging your pants,shaving your beards,still talking broken english and acting like a nigga all under guidance and direction from the anwar muhaymin and anas muhaymin the shayateen of philadelphia and their baby devil abdullah all of them leading black people obssesed with blackism astray……..allahu musta aaan…unlissted2008…..Abdullah aswaad showing your black filthy character by threatening another muslim with violence…..

  89. unlissted says:

    None of us salafees want to be arabs…..and dont want to be beard shaving,tight faggot suit wearing,fitted baseball caps,baggy boxers showing homos either…..like many of you nationalistics negroes still stuck on yourselves……advice for the salafees here ….these people here are nationalistic, soofee grave worshipping negroes,warith deeners,ghetto-listic ignoramuses….they dont understand tawheed let alone manhaj mistakes of abu usama..so these blokes need to be schooled…..Unlissted2008.

  90. Abu Rumaysa says:

    To all of u above
    I am a brother from South Africa – just been browsing thru yr posts today. I come from a country of the Aids epidemic, Aids orphans, violent crimwe, etc, etc, etc. With all the problems we have here, its really sad to see that u Muslims have nothing better to do than occupy yourselves with such idle, unnecessary bull. U will surely be held accountable for this.

  91. […] No way! Racism in Yemen. It can’t be. But then again some think it is religiously justified. […]

  92. Kwame Maddem says:

    To the unlisted cowards state who you are. I’m not a sufi , deviant warithdeen follower, hiphop muslim, nor a secular muslim. I hate bidda and shirk just like you. But I refuse to to take narrow road you super dupers have taken. You people have become a island all by yourselves. You people have a fake self righteous that you have prescribe to yourselves. By the way AbdurRahman and others are working to establish this deen not like you cultish brothers .who just sit around and condemn muslims. What have you losers built? You people have people hating to even hear the word salafi because of your trival nonsense. By the way it not fardayn to call yourself salafi.
    But you take the opinion of a scholar in the 21st first century and make it criterion for discord.

    Magrib institute, Arees institute, foundation for knowledge and development and Islamic University in Minnesota are all building contrary to you brothers. As one shaykh in Houston,TX.
    once said a moving train cant worry about a barking dog.

  93. salafiburnout says:

    ironically, “unlissted” was the one that broke the scandal with the salafi “duaat” and exposed them for running through the women the way that they do. See this post and this post for example

    Seems that he has taken all of it back now and is back in the good graces of the family and now denies that mass chaos caused by these people. Marrying dozens of times, children not being taken care of, misogyny and on and on. One famous salafi da’ee allegedly has 10 children that he is not taking care of. When is someone going to hold them responsible? Why are they allowed to go from city to city portraying themselves as pious and destroy life after life?

  94. unlissted says:

    They still are shayateen….the hell with the salafi duaat….you guys are attacking the dawatus saalafeyah…..instead of the duaat…..that;’s the problem not the deen…….like umar lee and the rest of the grumpy old men…..They still hate us too…Unlissted2008 focus on the target….We felt we needed to not get too personal anymore….I fault abu usamah for not explaining in it’s totality….kwam’e stop being silly….whatever century the scholar is in it doesnt matter….and building things dooesnt neccesarily distiguish one deen…like for instance luqman(kenny gambling) he’s built plenty but still collects haram money from music revenues….unlissted2008..

  95. salafiburnout says:

    unlissted:

    Not get too personal? You KNOW as well as the rest of us that those du’aat have done MASSIVE damage in the community. You KNOW and have SEEN the damage there in Philly.

    Why let them off the hook? No, the deen itself is not the problem. They created an entire movement from which they could harvest women and fame. What do you say to the many children of these duat that are growing up without a man in the home? How does it look the people continue to praise these duaat while the women and children are suffering. What kind of example is that? Do we praise “dead beat dads” or expose them for what they are? Why do we continue to let them go around and do damage to the community?

    No building things doesn’t NECESSARILY distinguish one, but what about DESTROYING everything that comes in its path?

  96. Kwame Madden says:

    The call to Book and Sunna is not the problem its the callers who are the problem.Narrow mindnesses and extremism only last for short
    time.

  97. This response is mainly for “unlisted”. I found your personal attacks on people [you named anwar Muhaiman etc..] as really uncalled for, and irrelevant to this subject. Why are they shayateen? I recently was introduced to anwar, was told he is a Hafidh of the Qur’an. Isn’t that disrespect to a “scholar”? Not to mention backbiting and slander.

    Islam is a religion of clarity and a faith of understanding. It should be the inspiration one needs to get out there and be successful, to acquire all the tools we need to not only spread Islam, but to have a comfortable and honorable life. If we just attack and attack all the time, for stupid reasons like a beard and the manner someone else performs his salaah, we become petty and a burden on society! We will end up having earned no respect in this world, and Islam ends up being dismissed as a bad joke!

    It is indeed a horrible thing that we have Muslims defending things that are clearly against the Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet. We must reach the realization that scholars [‘Ulamaa] are human as well, perfectly capable of having prejudices and wrong opinions. In other words, if Ibn Taymiyyah or Imam Malik did have the view that Blacks are inferior or something like that, well, they were dead wrong!

    The Qur’an is for a thinking people [Liqawmin Yatafakkaroon], and if we don’t think, we should be honest and simply discard the words of Allah. We should become KKK members and call it a day!

    My dear brothers and sisters, have courage! Let us not be afraid to question and reject things that deserve rejection, when these false notions and prejudices are clearly against the teachings of the Qur’an and the Messenger of Allah.

    Regards,
    S.Waheed

  98. unlissted says:

    So him being a hafith makes him a scholar now??????????????…Memorising the whole quran doesnt make a person a scholar….that’s not a condition with any of the schoalrs of the past or today….Anwar and anas muhaymen …are beard shaving,pants dragging,anwar wears earrings, they.turn a blind eye to music,dress like the kufaaar, they are callers to the ashaaree innovative aqeeda,and sufi manhaj,they entertain many deviants, and in their school the “Quba institute” they celebrate martin luthers king day, they endorse and teach black nationalism,and have and preach racist ideas against arabs..especially their arch enemy saudi arabia……. Despite having the chance in life to witness and accompany the likes of Al Alaamah Shaikh Muhamad Salih Al Uthaimeen..Rahimhulaah……still they chose the path of the shayateen and chose to call to the path of the devils and their spawn is abdullah from lampost productions and other venomous demons asssociated with them like Hamlet useless,khalid Blan-in-sunnah,zayd Shakk,and the mushrik ali jipped…(as the scholars have declared ali jiffree to be a kafir)….Unlissted2008…if your not SALAFI then your upon deviance

  99. First things first, I met Anwar at the Mana conference. He has a beard, does not wear earrings from what I recall seeing, and dresses in a clean, dignified manner. I will admit that while I don’t know him, it just seems the attacks are not dignified. Does not Allah [SWT] say in the Qur’an that it’s better to not broadcast negative things, with the only exception being that someone has been wronged [ 4:148]?

    Frankly, if these people are bad, if everyone in the world except the followers of your “minhaaj” are incorrect, then you don’t have to talk bad about them. Build your own schools, Masaajid and businesses. Become active in the community, instead of just attacking and criticizing all the time. Your actions and legacy will speak louder than anything else.

    Please be a bit more polite, that is indeed the Sunnah. If the statements of fellow Muslims are wrong, correct then nicely. I welcome you to visit my blog and show me if I have a mistaken view about one issue or the other.

    Laa elaaha ill Allah, Muhammadar RasoolUllah.

    S.Waheed

  100. salafiburnout says:

    unlissted

    you KNOW as well as I do that Anwar is a solid family man and promotes SOLID family values, which is a LOT more than I can say about the joy riders you and I both KNOW go from wife to wife to wife and leave children all over the place.

    You are only making excuses for them by saying “their aqeedah is correct but their actions are messed up” … why can a person not have BOTH. You all still have people that are KNOWN to be married dozens of times and dead beat dads on your dwindling lecture circuits. Were the brothers that robbed the Wal-mart “OK” because they have good aqeedah? Was the sister that murdered her husband “OK” because she was salafi? Come on akhi, let’s be for real here and stop making excuses for this crap. There are a lot of charlatans in your ranks and YOU KNOW IT.

  101. candidlyspeaking says:

    Salafiburnout – Speak the Truth!

  102. candidlyspeaking says:

    As’salaam Aleykum,

    What Ahkee Salafiburnout has said is nothing but truth. These individuals of this movement have become more of an infestation than a solution. This is not Salafiyyah that Sh. Al-albanee (May Allah be pleased and have mercy on him) spoke about, and I did not know we looked into the hearts of men and determined their creed/manhaj as opposed to their statements/actions with their families and communities.

    Since when do we take the kalam of men over that of the one whom Allah taught the religion to so that he would teach and guide all of mankind (Sal Allaahu Aleyhi was’salaam)? He said we are no better than the next nor any less – but by God consciousness. Now you tell me what takes precedence the utterance of one whom received Wahi day and night or one who comes after?

    The statement of every man can be accepted or rejected, except for An Nabi Allaah (sal Allahu aleyhi was salaam). If the brother has misunderstood that then he does not know his religion.

    Seriously! May Allah correct our affairs, Ameen.

  103. Nafis Bouie says:

    To the unknown “Unlissted.” First, we must stand upon one of the greatest principles in our deen’s ‘aqeedah which is the ‘isma/divine protection from error of Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah. After the Messenger of Allah, the ‘isma/divine protectiom from error transfers from him to the ijmaa’/unanimous concensus of the ‘ulamaa. It is only the Shi’a, not Ahl al sunnah that believe that the ‘ismaa/divine protection from error tranferred from Muhammad to his descendants. That being said, our ‘ulamaa hasn’t unanimously agreed upon the conclusions of your “salafi” doctrinal arguments, neither your “salafi” fiqh rulings. There has been a great amount of ikhtilaaf regarding them. There is no presumed ma’soom/divine protection from error in your interpretation of Allah’s essence, and there is no unanimous concensus regarding many of the fiqh issues that you argue. Therefore, we don’t have to accept any ‘aqeedah formula, or fiqh ruling from Ibn Taymiyyah, Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab or any other Arab amongst the ‘ulalmaa as a binding obligatory injunction unless it has reached the level of ijmaa’ in this ummah as a whole. Most of your arguments in ‘aqeedah and fiqh are furu’/secondary principle types that fit in the category of mukhtalaf fihi/disagreemnt not mujmaa’ alayh/unanimity. You have been succesful in dupping others, especially lay Americans into believing that there’s an ijmaa’ regarding many of the issues you argue and it just simply isn’t. Divine protection from error was with our noble Prophet, and then the unanimous concensus of the whole ‘ulamaa, not just the ‘ulamaa from the Arabian peoples. Allah knows best! And the next time you write a message so slanderous, please give your name, so I can pray that Allah remove this malady from you.

  104. […] and communities, were expected to go along with the program, not ask too many questions, and serve as pawns in an international intrigue they had little to no knowledge of. The real tragedy in all of this is […]

  105. […] Recently I have begun to identify what I have termed the “Immigrant Muslim Syndicate” that has, with the exception of Imam W.D. Mohammed’s community and the notorious Salafi movement, completely dominated Muslim discourse in the United States for at least the past 25 or 30 year . I’ve discussed in detail, and with scathing criticism, how that syndicate systematically appropriated Black Muslim leadership resulting in the complete marginalization of their issues and concerns, relegating them to the “back of the camel“ […]

  106. Nafis Bouie says:

    I meant “majmu’ alayh” unanimity, in response 104

  107. Abu Abdillah says:

    2700 – ” يا أيها الناس ! إن ربكم واحد و إن أباكم واحد ، ألا لا فضل لعربي على عجمي و
    لا عجمي على عربي و لا أحمر على أسود و لا أسود على أحمر إلا بالتقوى *( إن
    أكرمكم عند الله أتقاكم )* ، ألا هل بلغت ؟ قالوا : بلى يا رسول الله ! قال :
    فيبلغ الشاهد الغائب ” .

    قال الألباني في ” السلسلة الصحيحة ” 6 / 449 :

  108. Abu Abdillah says:

    As-Salaamu ‘Alaikum,

    Just to clarify. I am no relation to Aboo Abdillaah H, alhamdulillah. I intentionally only posted the previous hadeeth in Arabic. Not as an insult or a put down of the intelligence or sincerity of those Muslims who do not speak or read it fluently, but rather to encourage us all to read and consider the hadeeth as authenticated a coming from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah (صلى االله عليه و سام) and I pray it appears properly in the blog.

  109. Abu Abdillah says:

    (صلّى االله عليه و سلّم)

  110. Abu Abdillah says:

    My Arabic typing is very poor. My apologies. Both previous entries contained typos in

    (صلّى الله عليه و سلّم)

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  112. Abu Abdillah says:

    BTW Abu Usama NEVER stated Arabs were the MASTER RACE. Abdur-Rahman deduced that and it is wrongly being quoted as the words of the salafi brother.

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  115. Muslim says:

    Assalamu ‘alaikum

    Shamsudeen waheed, you quoted the Qur’an and said that “Al-a’raabu ashaddu kufran wa nifaaqa” from surat al-Tawba, and you translated it as “The Arabs are the worse in hypocrisy and rejection.”

    In post #69 on this blog.

    Then you ‘clarified yourself’ in the paragraph after that but you failed to explain that you mistranslated it… This Ayah is not only “in reference” to the desert Bediouns, it is directly talking about them! A’raab and ‘arab are two different words, if you hadn’t noticed.

  116. mujaheed alkhalifa says:

    asalamu aleikum ya ahlu kittaab wa sunnalh

    1)i highly advise to remove this thread to avoid the fitna

    2) the word afdal in arabic does not mean superior but rather preferable in refence to banu hashem the tribe of the prophet salaAllahu alihi wasalam.

    3) the next ayya apply to both arabs and not arabs in terms of the muslims ummah

    O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honourable of you with Allâh is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa [i.e. one of the Muttaqûn (pious – see V.2:2). Verily, Allâh is All-Knowing, All-Aware. (Al-Hujurat 49:13)

    4) i personally aggree that banu hashem are the preffered tribe amongs the arabs and no arabs

    5) this fitna is the work of some deviant hindopakistani sect that hate the arabs so much because thy expose them for their shirk

    5) in islam there is no room for differences wal hamdulilAllah its not blacks against whites, its not america but rather a nation of brotherhood and sisterhood if any person has that feeling so please go and correct your aqida

    6) please remove this thread

    wa salamu aleikum

  117. mujaheed alkhalifa says:

    asalamu aleikum yaaa ahlu kittaab wa sunnah

    evidence:

    quote from Zaid

    “And then you have all those other people who hate arabs and the language but they memorize the quran in arabic and learn urdu, like my people, and this is because of racism,”

  118. mujaheed alkhalifa says:

    to Zaid
    assalum aleikum

    ya akhi you have quoted so many ahadith without reference

    could you please provide the daleel for this hadith

    “It was narrated upon the Messenger (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) that he ascended the mimbar, praised Allaah and then said: “O mankind! Surely the Lord is one Lord, the father is one father the deen is one deen. Surely Arabic is not for anyone of you due to a father or a mother, it is only a language. Whoever speaks Arabic is an Arab.”

    QUESTION: are the christians in lebanon who speaks arabic considered arabs and muslims?

    arabs are the descendant of the people from HIJAZ (i.e quraysh) that embraced islam at the time to the prophet salaAllahu allihi wa salam.

    during the futuhat (the opening) at the time of the khulafa rashideen and at the time of the khilafa of banu ummyyaa in particular the arabs went for jihab fisabeeli al-Allah to different places such as indalusia and north africa where i come from.

    when we the arabs say we are arabs means we are muslims but we use this term for our love to the prophet salaAllahu alihi wa salam who as an arab.

    also we the arabs consider every MUSLIM not every one who speaks arabic to be an arab by respect to other muslims, that means we want to treat them like us or better.

    the newly definition of arab citizen has no thing to do with islam, this definition was given by that useless arab league who consider the christians that have an arab passpost or speaks arabic to be an arab ,but the fact of the matter is an arab is a muslim exactely like the prophet of islam sala Allah allihi wa salam therefore wherever you come from you are my brothers and sisters in islam not my co citizen the christian.

    ya barak Allahu feekum.

  119. Ahmad says:

    As-Salamu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullah

    I would like to address the comments by ” Hassan as-Salafi”

    You and others on this page have attacked black people because of what you people do in america and what black reverts do in america.

    Iam from Sudan and we are black and we don not do the things or have the culture that you black reverts do in america we do not do this drug dealing, this foul speech, this American black revert temporary marriage animal behavior where one salafi revert marries a sister and then divorces here after a couple of months.

    We do not have these things in our culture that you have.

    Muslims in Somalia do not have this culture that you black reverts in america have, you will not see a somalian raised in somalia have the americanized culture that you revert blacks do.

    You will not find this from the muslims in Eritrea as they do not have this culture that you have .

    So either people should make a difference between African born muslims and the revert blacks of america or they should speak with justice and not attack people because of their skin color.

    Allah loves Justice.

  120. mujaheed alkhalifa says:

    salam aleikum ahmad

    good point you have made

    personaly i never considered the blacks in america to be african, thy have no thing to do with africa HUGE difference in every thing

    they just happen to be blacks american but they have to admit it.

    when i wa in surinam in south america i met one black idiot who did believe me i was from africa funny wallahi

  121. mujaheed alkhalifa says:

    sorry he didnt bevieve me

    fi aman Allah ya akhi

  122. Abu Usamah al-Aswad says:

    Wa Laykum Salaam Brother “Ahmad”

    What are you talking about? In the urban center of these countries all these things exist. What is khat? Is it not a drug? If these places are such a utpia why is there a whole market for fake visas from these lands? why do countless seek political asylum here if it utopia is there?

    As I know a number of good Somalian and Sudanese brothers I will stoop to your level to discredit your statments by pointing out what goes on in these coutries.

    These so-called Salafi are brain screwing the people I’m telling you if people are honest. A Black can get more respect traveling in any country in the gulf (Saudi included) and get treated better wearing a suit and tie speaking English, than he will ever get wearing a toub speaking Arabic. There are Sudanese who would rather speak English and be mistaken for a Blackamerican rather than be treated as a Sudanese by the Saudis.

    I don’t even think you are Sudanese. Matter of fact, I do not believe you are from the Sudan nor Somalia nor Eritrea, you are a plant trying to divide and conqurer by causing fitna

    Nope tell the NSA/CIA/ISI internet TROLL division or who ever you work for it not going to work!!!!!

    I know wonderful people from Sudan and Somalia, but I’ve also come across a**holes so people are people but I’m not going put down a whole nation of people because of what some of them may do, or what someone pretending to be one of them does.

  123. Mashoor says:

    @ Abu Usamah Al-Aswad

    It is clear that you have been brainwashed. There is no egalitarian system in Islam. Stop trying to impose Western values upon Islam. The scholars of Islam have agreed for centuries that the Arabs are a superior race (jins) to the other races. They are the most noble and the highest of mankind. This is Islam and we need to accept the truth and stop following nationalism.

    By the way, I am not Arab, but I realize that they are better than me

  124. Abdul-Kareem says:

    So next time I am discriminated against by an Arab, I know that I am just supposed to take it because he is better than me.

  125. Moin says:

    it’s funny how the Western liberals go to any effort to IGNORE all the unsavory aspects of “black culture” Like cannibalism. Like harvesting body parts of freshly murdered children for voodoo rituals and making magic charms. The Arabs cleaned them up from this

  126. When my community discusses the state of religious affairs, the conversation goes like

    “So who is bringing the pot roast to dinner”

    “I’m bringing the sunflowers and cotton candy”

    “My , isn’t today just lovely”

    “Praise God for giving us such a blessed and rich life”

    I can’t remember a single time where someone said “we are black and we don not do the things or have the culture that you black reverts do in america we do not do this drug dealing, this foul speech, this American black revert temporary marriage animal behavior where one salafi revert marries a sister and then divorces here after a couple of months. ”

    Said by someone living in the hell-hole of Sudan!

    Now of course I was joking with the first part of my comment… but please… keep this nasty Islam religion out of the US. (too late, I know)

  127. JT says:

    I find it appalling that after being taught that I am inferior all my life and accepting Islam under the premise that I am a fully equal human being that people would now tell me that I am once again less

  128. Abu Usamah al-Aswad says:

    @ Mashoor

    You said ” @Abu Usamah Al-Aswad
    It is clear that you have been brainwashed. … By the way, I am not Arab, but I realize that they are better than me”

    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And I’m the one brainwashed LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  129. Abu Usamah al-Aswad says:

    @Aboo Abdillah H

    I careful research I guess I will have to admit YOU are correct Arabs have the best of culture, see too many us new Muslims who lack understanding get caught up in Loving the Prophet (saws) because of his character and position with Allah, and because he is a mercy to the worlds. Or we love the Sahaba because the Prophet (saws) said they were the best generation or we give precedence due to taqwa. No!!! this isnt enough, taqwa doesn’t matter Arabs are the master race simply because they are Arabs they can do no wrong. We should be happy look at what they’ve given us.

    The crip walk (yeah I bet you were thinking snoop dog)

    They are the masters of ghostriding

    They have mastered car customization — Don’t hate

    And What other Muslim Nation can have a third EID!

    And yes only the Arabs can have blameless friendship with christians

    Finally while we blacks have to put away our boom boxes only the Arabs can have music

    So when you think about it maybe they are the superior master race

  130. 100% Irhabi (ex:mujaheed alkhalifa) says:

    asalamu aleikum ya ahlu kittaabi wa sunnah

    the only person iam superior to is an ignorant one

    other than that, they are all my brothers and sisters in islam

    wasalamu aleikum ya amaan atba’aa huda

  131. Assalamu ‘Alaykum,

    I’ve just ran across this blog and was surprised to see the misunderstanding of the people on this blog.

    Firstly: About the issue of the above scholars speaking about someone being dark skinned or black as being inferior to one lighter, this is something that needs a further explination before people go and jump the gun and minunderstand the statements.

    You see Arab people are of various skin tones, but what is known is their ability to become REALLY tanned if they stay in the sun long enough. So in the olden days the poor had to work all day in the sun and would become very dark bacause of that, so dark skin was attributed the poor and consiquently was looked down upon.

    There person must be very ignorant of Arabs to think that there is racism against blacks here because the reality is that there is a substantial number of arabs, Saudi, Kuwaity, Emeraty, Yemany, Qatary, etc whose apperance is 100% black, if you stuck some shades on them and threw a Fubu shirt on their backs you’d think they were puff daddy. LOL

    Secondly, yes Ibn Taymiyyah and other spoke about the superiority of Arabs to non-Arabs, but where you fell short in was looking at what do they define as an arab. Ibn Taymiyyah didn’t consider a person to be arab by race, but he considered them to be so by language. If a person knew the arabic language fluently and could understand it well, then thins person was considered an arab.

    Now with that said then one can understand why he held such and opinion because if you know Arabic then you can grasp the meaning of the Quran and the sayings of the prophet Muhammad better. And if you ask any convert who learned arabic does a persons faith become stonger after they learned the language, they would all say yes.

    I am one of these people and I remember the days I’d read the Quran in english and would listen to it being recited in arabic and not understand a word. No doubt it still had a dramatic effect on me, but when I learned arabic I found out how much just one sentance can shake you heart and bring you to tears.

    So yeah I’d say that an Arabic speak is superior to an non-arabic speaker.

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  133. Aboo Haatim says:

    The brothers at Muslim Matters did not allow me to post this refutation of their position that the Arabs are not superior. This is my post:
    —————-

    In response to what our brother Yasir Qadhi has said on this issue when he and others said that discussion of this issue is of no benefit. I humbly and respectfully disagree with that view as this is an issue that was brought by the ulamaa for centuries and brought by the du’aat from amongst the salafees in order to correct our BELIEF

    Many Muslims in the West were unaware of the importance and significance of this issue so there IS A NEED to present this issue. Abu Usamah was one of those who brought this issue to the Muslims of the West. It is important for us to know just how vast this manhaj really is and remain on our path to understand and practice it. And since this is an issue of the Deen that alone shows it is important, and since it’s an issue dealing with AQEEDAH specifically, the importance of the issue is increased even more! If the scholars of the past spent time in writing about the issue of the ‘Afdaliyyah’ of the Arabs over the Non-Arabs, then surely that in itself is a proof of its importance and the relevance of us dealing with it today!

    That said, here are the proofs used by the MAJORITY which (unlike what was implied by our brother Yasir Qadhi) ARE formed and based upon proofs from the Kitaab and the Sunnah and what is from the consensus of the ulamaa

    Proof # One:

    Zaynab bint Jahsh (ra) said that the Messenger of Allaah (sal Allaahu alahi wa salam) entered upon her and he was disturbed and he said:

    “There is no God worthy of worship but Allaah! Woe unto the Arabs from the evil that has come close”. Bukhari (#7135) and Muslim (#7164)

    Umm Shuraik (ra) said she heard the Prophet (sal Allaahu alahi wa salam) say:

    “The people will run from Ad-Dajjaal by fleeing to the mountains”. So she said: ‘Yaa Rasoolilah! Were will the Arabs be at time’? He said, “They will be few (in numbers)”. Muslim (#7319)

    The scholars of Islam understood these two Hadith – and others similar to them – as showing the virtues of the Arabs over Non-Arabs because the Prophet (peace be upon him) mentioned the Arabs – specifically – in describing the whole Muslim Ummah!

    Imam At-tirmzi (ra) collected the first Hadith (#4187) and he entitled the chapter in which the Hadith is to be found as: ‘THE SUPERIORITY OF THE ARABS’.

    Also refer to the statements and explanations of these scholars and their books:

    Tuhfat-ul-Ahwadhy – Al-Mubaarakfoori (ra) Hadith #4187
    Fath-ul-Baari – Ibn Hajr (ra) 13/115
    Fayd-ul-Qadeer – An-Manaawee (ra) 6/476
    Bahjat-un-Naadhireen (Riyaad-us-Saaliheen) – Saleem Al-Hilaaly (ha) 1/280

    Proof # Two:

    Waathilah ibn Al-Asqa’ (ra) reported that he heard the Prophet (sal Allaahu alahi wa salam) say:

    “Verily Allaah chose Kinaanah from the children of Ismail, and He chose Quraish from Kinaanah, and He chose Bani Haashim from Quraish and He chose me from Bani Haashim”.] Muslim (#2276)

    bn Taymiyyah said:

    “This (Hadith) necessitates that Ismail (‘Alayhi Salaam) and his descendants are the best ones from the children of Ibrahim (‘Alayhi Salaam) and it also necessitates that they are better than the children of Ishaq (‘Alayhi Salaam).

    And what is well known is that the children of Ishaq – who are Bani Israa’il – are the best non-Arabs because of what they (have been given) of prophecy and the Book…” Al-Iqitdaa 1/430

    As it relates to this Hadith serving as a proof that shows the superiority of the Arabs over the Non-Arabs, Sheikh-ul-Islam (ra) is referring to what Allaah has mentioned in many Ayats of the Quran concerning the ‘Afdaliyyah’ that was given to Bani Israa’il over the rest of mankind (during that time).

    Allah said:

    “And (remember) when Musa said to his people: ‘Oh my people! Remember the favour of Allah upon you when He made Prophets among you (and He) made you kings and gave you what He had not given to any other among the Aalameen”. 6/20

    Therefore, the Quran proves that Bani Israa’il – who were ‘Ajamees – were the BEST OF THE ‘AALAMEEN – due to the favors Allaah bestowed upon them and – according to Sheikh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah ra) – this Hadith proves the Arabs are better than Non-Arabs because Allah has favored the descendants of Ismail (‘Alayhi Salaam) over the descendants of Ishaq (‘Alayhi Salaam)

    Proof # Three:

    Ibn Umar (ra) reported the Prophet (sal Allaahu alahi wa salam) said:

    “This affair will not cease to remain with Quraish as long as there are two people”. Bukhari (#3495) and Muslim (#1818)

    Jubair ibn Mat’am (ra) said that he heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) say:

    “The Quraishy (person) has (been given) the strength of two (Non-Quraishy people)”.

    This Hadith has been collected in the Hadith book of Imam ABU DAUD AT-TAYLASAALEE (#951)

    Mustafaa Al-‘Adawee Al-Misree graded this Hadith as being authentic in ‘Fadaa’il-ul-Sahaabah’ Pg 513.

    Muhammad ibn Shihaab Az-Zuhri (ra) was asked ‘What is the meaning of the Hadith concerning the Quraishy man being given the strength of two people not from Quraish’? He replied: ‘They have been given a sharp intellect’!

    So we see here clearly that the Quraish have superior intellect over other human beings.

    Proof #4:

    The Hadith of Al-Irbaad ibn As-Saariyah (ra) in which the Prophet (sal Allaahu alahi wa salam) said:

    [“…Verily the one who lives from amongst you will witness a lot of ‘Ikhtilaaf’. Therefore, (you should) take my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the RIGHTLY GUIDED KHALIFAHS’. Bite on them with your molars…”]. Ahmed 4/126

    Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) said:

    “Verily Umar (ra), when he used to distribute the salary register he would give to the people according to their lineage. He began (by giving to those) who were closest in their lineage to the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him).

    After he finished giving to the Arabs, he then began to distribute (the monies) to the ‘Ajam (Non-Arabs)!

    This was the way of the ‘Deewaan’ during the time of (all of) the RIGHTLY GUIDED KHALIFAHS (as well as) all of the Khalifahs of Bani Umayyad and the Abbasiyyeen and then it was changed after that”. Al-Iqtidaa 1/446

    Lastly, Ibn Rajab Al-Hanbali also referred to the issue of the ‘Deewaan’ of Umar (ra) in his book ‘Jaami’ Uloom Wal-Hikm’ 2/121-126.

    Since Umar (ra) placed the Arabs ahead of the Non-Arabs in the distribution of the salaries and the companions allowed this to take place, this is a clear proof of the correctness of this position

    All of the above said, it is ridiculous for others to assert that there is no superiority of the Arabs in this deen in a very real sense and not in the way that our brother Yasir has described it. This is a clear article of deen

  134. jenn says:

    What intellegent black person would want to follow the religion after reading this crap? Utter nonsense..I’ll be darned if some sweaty arab will tell me he is better than me…you immigrants need to get a grip or go back to where you came from….filthy pigs

  135. Kwame Madden says:

    Imam Luqman Ahmad article on emancipation of the African Americian is must read for all of us to read and comprahend .Also ImamTalib Abdur Rasheed article on muslims participating in rallies and demonstrations.Both atricles are good for those of us who have chosen to not be under anybody who comes here and believe we are there subjects to be used and abused.

  136. Race and ethnicity are the two most influential dynamics that have shaped and continues to define the American Muslim identity profile. These two factors supersede religion in setting the substratum of association between immigrant and African American Muslims. The first thing that African American Muslims need to understand is that we have been colonized. Not by one group of people, but several groups of immigrant Muslims. This is not indictment upon all immigrant Muslims, however, it is an indictment of some of them. Once African American Muslim start to realize that they are in free people, to act in our own best interests, and accept or reject anyone’s opinion Muslims., and that the immigrant scholarly intelligentsia, have absolutely no authority whatsoever to rule over the indigenous American Muslim community of converts and second generation.
    There is no contract of authority, bay’at, official agreement, consensus, election, vote of confidence, giving religious rule to immigrant scholars over Negro Muslims in America, or authority to regulate how African American Muslims conduct themselves. If anyone says that they have religious authority, then religious authority is based upon the Book and the Sunna which is not monopolized by any one group of people.If anyone has religious authority over indigenous American Muslims, then they are obliged to come forward and identify themselves and say; I am your leader, so we all can have a good laugh and help him out of his delusion,. That is not likely to happen, because a leader cannot claim leadership he does not have. taken or been given.
    It’s not permissible to give the opinion of a scholar the same weight as the word of God or the authentic word of the Prophet. There are thousands upon thousands of scholars past and present with variant opinions that anyone can access and throw it down like a bone for us to fight over, which is what usually happens. That’s part of the strategy. If people want to argue, let them argue over the word of God and His Messenger (SAWS) and not over the words of men.
    As for the preference of the Arabs over all others; The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Who is the most honorable amongst the people (in Allah’s Sight)?” He said, “The most righteous amongst them.” They said, “We do not ask you, about this. ” He said, “Then Joseph, Allah’s Prophet, the son of Allah’s Prophet, The son of Allah’s Prophet the son of Allah’s Khalil (i.e. Abraham).” They said, “We do not want to ask about this,” He said’ “Then you want to ask about the descent of the Arabs. Those who were the best in the pre-lslamic period of (jaahiliyyah) will be the best in Islam provided they comprehend the religious knowledge.” (Bukhaari)
    Either the Prophet is telling the truth, or is not. The if anyone thinks that he’s not telling the truth, and that the Prophet is a liar, then the person after given though and clear explanation, has left the fold of Islam unless they retreat. The Prophet did not come to glorify the Arabs, the blacks, the Asians, or the whites. None of them did; they came to warn and to give glad tidings; “[We sent all these] apostles as heralds of glad tidings and as warners, so that people might have no excuse before God after [the coming of] these apostles: and God is indeed al¬mighty, wise.” 4:165
    رُّسُلاً مُّبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ لِئَلاَّ يَكُونَ لِلنَّاسِ عَلَى اللّهِ حُجَّةٌ بَعْدَ الرُّسُلِ وَكَانَ اللّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا
    The assumption of preference over other people while still in this life is an illusion. When is based upon race, or ethnicity, or language, it is even more of an illusion. The assumption of racial or ethnic preference, necessitates that you assume another race to be beneath you stature. The only purpose that matters is the preference on the day of judgment, and there is no mention get into any race of people on the day of judgment in the book, or in the sunna of the Prophet. The statements mentioned by scholars , and the actions of a few of the companions of the Prophet used to argue against the book and the sunna is a division of racial superiority In which case you’re suffering not only from delusion, but a possible life of delusion. Arrogance is one of the most destructive spiritual diseases and one that prevents the entry into paradise. The Prophet said: “The person who has a mustard seeds of arrogance it is heart, will not enter paradise”, and he described arrogance as; “the rejection of the truth and putting people down” (Muslim)
    The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Who is the most honorable amongst the people (in Allah’s Sight)?” He said, “The most righteous amongst them.” They said, “We do not ask you, about this. ” He said, “Then Joseph, Allah’s Prophet, the son of Allah’s Prophet, The son of Allah’s Prophet the son of Allah’s Khalil (i.e. Abraham).” They said, “We do not want to ask about this,” He said’ “Then you want to ask about the descent of the Arabs. Those who were the best in the pre-lslamic period of (jaahiliyyah) will be the best in Islam provided they comprehend the religious knowledge.” (Bukhaari)
    I don’t like to debate with people on the Internet. Constructing a rebuttal to something clearly stated in the book of a law in numerous occasions, and in the statements, and practice of the messenger of a law very dangerous to begin with. However, if anyone insists upon it, and I’ll assume their intention s to arrive at the truth and not to show familiarity with classical texts, they should try to use proofs and arguments from those very sources ie the Quran and he Sunna and not the interpretations of scholars. Or if a person really believes that the Arabs are etter, and ave superior intellect, then maybe it is better to get an Arab to make the argument. Not a dead one, but a live one because a dead person cannot explain his ta’weel (interpretation), and his words have already joined him in his grave. So I want to caution the brother because if your arguments are easily disproven, or weak and unintelligible, intelligent people will not take you seriously. Mentioning the statements of the ghairi ma’soom (fallible) to disprove the statement of the ma’soom (infallible) is itself an ominous sign of spiritual that he or she doubts the Prophet. Prophets prove they are chosen by Allah through their miracles (mu’jizaat). Arabs have no proof of their preference over others in any area of deen or dunya. In fact, the proof would conclude that they are human .
    If Arabs are preferred over all people, then they would not have been worshiping idols, at a time when people were worshipping Allah. Unless you mean they did not become the preferred people until after the Prophet (SAWS) was sent to them, in which case the argument weakens substantially; because the Arabs rejected the Prophet and forced him to migrate with seventy something believers. .so even after receiving the message, there were Arabs who still languished in darkness and idolatry. Superior intellect recognizes a Prophet not repudiate him. If worshipping hich is what the Arabs were doing, is a sign of great intellect, then the opposite of it would be a sign of severe stupidity, the opposite of shirk is tawheed, and if anyone thinks that tawheed is stupidity then he or she has left Islam.
    If you still think the Arabs are superior to non Arabs, and have superior intellect, then you are using an argument which has already been debunked by Allah. . “And when it is said to them; believe as the people believe. They say; are we going to believe as the stupid people believe? Nay they are the stupid ones but they perceive it not. Or are you saying that some Arabs excel over others according to faith. If you answer yes, then you are admitting that the emaan of an Arab, Arabs can rise and fall in their level of faith. if you are admitting that, then you are conceding that their faith could decrease. If the faith of an ara can decrease, then it can also deplete. . I counted no less than 35 absurdities in your argument. Please pick something esle..

    Imam Luqman Ahmad

  137. Z T says:

    Salam alaikum,
    In response to Jenn. I would like to say, as you can see there are tons of African Americans on this board and otherwise that do not subscribe to this Arab racism non-sense. It is not in the deen of Islam. So please see that clearly. African Americans are telling you that what some Arabs hold is false.

    In terms of the response from Imam Luqman. One part of your posting stood out:

    As for the preference of the Arabs over all others; The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Who is the most honorable amongst the people (in Allah’s Sight)?” He said, “The most righteous amongst them.” They said, “We do not ask you, about this. ” He said, “Then Joseph, Allah’s Prophet, the son of Allah’s Prophet, The son of Allah’s Prophet the son of Allah’s Khalil (i.e. Abraham).” They said, “We do not want to ask about this,” He said’ “Then you want to ask about the descent of the Arabs. Those who were the best in the pre-lslamic period of (jaahiliyyah) will be the best in Islam provided they comprehend the religious knowledge.” (Bukhaari)

    Please note, when the people asked him who is the best of all people, he gave them what is known to be the correct answer: “The most righteous amongst them”. They could not accept that answer. What they were saying is, “that’s not what we were talking about”. Rather than accept the answer of Rasul allah, regardless of what they were trying to get at, they wanted something else. Even in the presence of Allah’s Messenger they would not stop their jahil ways. So he respond’s “Then Joseph (Yusuf) Allah’s Prophet, the son of Allah’s Prophet, The son of Allah’s Prophet the son of Allah’s Khalil (i.e. Abraham).” They still didn’t get it. They wanted an answer to their racially based question, AND Rasul Allah knew this. Notice his patience, and his wisdom. He allowed them their racial foolishness at least in this context, after he was pushed, but ONLY IF they accepted that such an individual acknowledge Allah’s deen. “Then you want to ask about the descent of the Arabs. Those who were the best in the pre-lslamic period of (jaahiliyyah) will be the best in Islam provided they comprehend the religious knowledge.” In front of Allah’s messenger to his face they showed how foolish and stiff necked they were. Rasul Allah kept the standard that the best in deen is the best of people, they would not accept such an answer!

    Please compare such a people to what Allah describes in the Quran in surah Baqarah:

    67

    And (remember) when Musa (Moses) said to his people: “Verily, Allah commands you that you slaughter a cow.” They said, “Do you make fun of us?” He said, “I take Allah’s Refuge from being among Al-Jahilun (the ignorants or the foolish).”

    68

    They said, “Call upon your Lord for us that He may make plain to us what it is!” He said, “He says, ‘Verily, it is a cow neither too old nor too young, but (it is) between the two conditions’, so do what you are commanded.”

    69

    They said, “Call upon your Lord for us to make plain to us its colour.” He said, “He says, ‘It is a yellow cow, bright in its colour, pleasing to the beholders.’ ”

    70

    They said, “Call upon your Lord for us to make plain to us what it is. Verily to us all cows are alike, And surely, if Allah wills, we will be guided.”

    71

    He [Musa (Moses)] said, “He says, ‘It is a cow neither trained to till the soil nor water the fields, sound, having no other colour except bright yellow.’ ” They said, “Now you have brought the truth.” So they slaughtered it though they were near to not doing it.

    This bad attitude has survived attempts by Rasul Allah to eradicate it or at least to limit it, and DESPITE BEING MUSLIM. Some, not all Arabs still feel themselves superior.

    This, despite the fact that Rasul Allah was against it up to the end of his life. What to say about a day and age, the present where his example is just a dream for some people?

    On a side note, please let us not differentiate between Asians or Arabs unless contextually necessary. Arabs are Asians. They come from the continent of Asia, they are just as Asian as a Vietnamese. Call them west Asians if you have to but please I live in Arab country, and I sometimes make it a point to draw a map of the continent of Asia, which includes Saudi Arabia.

  138. Qawmiyya is a thing of the past right now it is taking it’s final breath. Most of the time the final breath is the deepest.

  139. Kamal says:

    “His statements have to be read in context with his theory on what causes cultural attributes, as one poster indicated there are matter of climate involved. Also not forgetting that he was a man with a given cultural context.

    1. He believed that people living in distant regions from temperate zones were far from equilibrium in their situations.

    2. He believed that their building structures and clothing tended to be very rudimentary; and most of them go naked. He also believed that skin colour was unbalanced and their currency generally comprised of copper, iron or hides.

    3. He believed that many of them live in caves and woods, eat wild fruits and are savage, uncivilized and practice cannibalism, and in this was had conduct is closer to mute beasts.

    4. He believed this was the situation of the Northern most Whites, in particular the Slavs of the extreme North, as well as the black Negros of the extreme South.

    5. HE points out there are exceptions, such as the (then) few Christian peoples among the Northern Slavs, Franks and Turks.

    6. Among the Blacks in the south he points out that the Abyssinians in the Horn of Africa, who were then largely Christian, and the people of Mali, Koko and Takrur, who were Muslims, were also exceptions.

    7. This wasn’t about racism it was about observable traits and his trying to find an ENVIRONMENTAL explanation for these traits.

    8. Ibn Khuldun rather objectively points out lowly and non flattering aspects of just about EVERY group of human beings and their conditions. So you can find fodder in his writing with which to bash Arab and Berber as well.

    An example, is his argument about FOOD mixed with climate for the civilized Berbers and Arabs, which tended to create “stupidity, carelessness and deviance from equilibrium generally” in them

    9. He points out again that CLIMATE and Food are key in creating traits, that there are vast differences even in people of the same race in fertile and arid zones.

    No where in his thought is an essentialist theory, of where human traits come from. He does not argue about RACE, rather about climate, food, conquest, sedentary lifestyles, nomadic lifestyles, and their effects on culture. The skin color of these people was secondary to their culture and climates.

    And FRANKLY from where I sit, he had some truth to him. No doubt there was some anti-Black prejudice in the cultural milieu in his land, but remember that these people interacted and befriended Muslim Blacks from Mali, Ghana, and the Takroor.

    The pagan white Germans and Slavs at that time were among the most barbaric people in the earth, many of whom lived in conditions similar to what he argued, does anyone need a description of Northern Europe during the Dark Ages?

    In the same way the conditions of many of the pagan Black Zanj peoples of the far south were, leaving aside political correctness, barbaric. There is nothing racist about saying this, White Northerners and Black Southerners outside the temperate zones were at that time fairly barbaric by Islamic standards. Cannibalism, Human Sacrifice, all manners of sexual perversions, were not uncommon in many pagan peoples of both the Whites and blacks.

    There were ALSO noble virtues of many of these peoples, but Ibn Khuldun’s perspective, though biased, wasn’t completely off kilter.

    what IS off-kilter is to selectively quote him in a racialist way.

    For the record I am a Black Man, proud in my people and their history and my fathers. It is common knowledge that many of the ARABS were barbaric, in particularly the Maqil who invaded North Africa, and Ibn Khuldun richly demonstrates this in his writings as well. There is no racism here,

    The picture of the Arabs as well as the desert Berbers that he paints is of people utterly rapacious, harsh, and violent. He argues that theirs is a coarse life, which prompts them into sprees of looting and devastation. After destroying whole lands they settle, having achieved their objectives, and leave the original inhabitants of the occupied territories to fend for themselves. They Arabs go decadent and scarcely rule over the conquered peoples, except in extorting massive taxes from them.

    Anyone remotely familiar with Umayyad history would see this pattern🙂

    Look at the 19th-early 20th century, the Qawasim in the gulf, the establishment of Oman and Zanzibar and the Emirates of the gulf. Moreover the ascendancy of the Saudi family followed some patterns that Ibn Khuldun described.

    Ibn Khuldun was not a racist, he believed that climate, religion, and food had real demonstrable effects on human character, and when these factors are changed people changed. He uses the examples of the Muslims of the Sudan, and Bilal (ra) as well as of the Turks who embraced Islam, and the Christians of Ethiopia and the Christian Franks (whom were in my opinion scarcely less barbaric than their pagan Teutonic cousins) and other people to make his argument. Man is man, but is affected by his environment.

    If he was politically incorrect, those were politically incorrect days. But I think that calling hi a racist is untenable.”

  140. jund says:

    jenn said:
    “What intellegent black person would want to follow the religion after reading this crap?”

    Errrrrm, why did you insert the adjective ‘black’ in there, you idiotic racist? Lol. You self-centered ‘victims’ of racism are the most racist bunch in the world. Always, always mentioning race in every single subject.

    “What intelligent black person would…”
    You think that this intelligent person, being black and all, would get different results than if he were, say, an intelligent white or yellow or green person, you racist imbecile?

  141. عبدالكريم الربنسوني says:

    [quote]Could you please provide the entry in Lisan al-`Arab which states that “Salafi” means this? To further clarify: I am requesting an entry from the classical Ma`ajim that state that a follower of the first 3 generations of Muslims is a “Salafi” as opposed to using the word “Khalaf”. Jazakullahu khayran. was-salam[/quote] this will not be found in a m’ujam or qamees for they are not for this. one must go to the books of nahu(grammar) because the word salafi partly came from this knowledge
    القواعد في اللغة العربية ومشتقاتها
    الاسم: .
    (1) الجامد والمشتق
    (8) النسبة:
    زيادة ياء مشددة بعد كسر على الاسم لتدل على النسبة: شام: شامِيّ.
    – عند نسبة المؤنث تحذف تاء تأنيثه: مكة: مكيّ.

    sahih bukhari:
    حدثني ‏ ‏إسحاق بن إبراهيم ‏ ‏أخبرنا ‏ ‏جرير ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عمارة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي زرعة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي هريرة ‏ ‏رضي الله عنه ‏
    ‏عن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏تجدون الناس ‏ ‏معادن ‏ ‏خيارهم في الجاهلية خيارهم في الإسلام إذا فقهوا وتجدون خير الناس في هذا الشأن أشدهم له كراهية وتجدون شر الناس ذا الوجهين الذي يأتي هؤلاء
    بوجه ويأتي هؤلاء بوجه
    people are of different origins, [b]the best of you in ignorance are the best in islam when he/she aquires islamic knowledge[/b] you will find that the best people hate it the most( seeking leadership/authority) and you will find the worst people to be two-faced. they come this(group)in one way and they come to this(group) in (another)face.
    afdhaliyyah exist in everything and if not then that would contradict Allah’s book and make the kafir equal to the believer
    slave equal to the master
    woman equal to the man
    laymen equal to the scholar
    companions equal to their prophets(alahim salaam)
    shirk equal to tawheed
    sinner equal to the righteous
    and the worst of all the creation equal to the creator
    the point is that anything that has any inkling of attachment to the deen then it is a favor from allah subhanahu. righteous arabs have a characteristic that they share with the prophet and use to better themselves in the deen. (language,upbringing,familiarality of islamic concepts)
    righteous quraishees have a characteristic in which they share with the prophet and use to practice with(khilafat,speak the language with proficiency for it is their tongue,etc.)
    righteous hashimees are the same and those who can trace back to the prophet alahi salaam.
    مَثَلُ الْفَرِيقَيْنِ كَالأَعْمَى وَالأَصَمِّ وَالْبَصِيرِ وَالسَّمِيعِ هَلْ يَسْتَوِيَانِ مَثَلا أَفَلا تَذَكَّرُون
    the example of two groups are the blind and deaf compared to the seeing and hearing; are they an equal likeness? DO YOU NOT REFLECT(It is Allah’s creation and he does with it whatever he wants. he knows better and he is the most wise and most knowledegable. arrogance and rejection do not suit for a mere creation. obedience and submission to the creator is perfect for the slave being that it is due to the MASTER for he is your RABB)
    Observing most of the base of ‘ajam culture you will find that it has no specific links to islam compared to arab culture. that is an undebateable truth. therefore the benefit is stronger on one side than it is on the other. in both is good but one is better than the other hands down. As muslims we choose that which is more close to that which allah revealed.

    [quote]Please note, when the people asked him who is the best of all people, he gave them what is known to be the correct answer: “The most righteous amongst them”. They could not accept that answer. What they were saying is, “that’s not what we were talking about”. Rather than accept the answer of Rasul allah, regardless of what they were trying to get at, they wanted something else. Even in the presence of Allah’s Messenger they would not stop their jahil ways. So he respond’s “Then Joseph (Yusuf) Allah’s Prophet, the son of Allah’s Prophet, The son of Allah’s Prophet the son of Allah’s Khalil (i.e. Abraham).” They still didn’t get it. They wanted an answer to their racially based question, AND Rasul Allah knew this. Notice his patience, and his wisdom. He allowed them their racial foolishness at least in this context, after he was pushed, but ONLY IF they accepted that such an individual acknowledge Allah’s deen. “Then you want to ask about the descent of the Arabs. Those who were the best in the pre-lslamic period of (jaahiliyyah) will be the best in Islam provided they comprehend the religious knowledge.” [b]In front of Allah’s messenger to his face they showed how foolish and stiff necked they were.[/b] Rasul Allah kept the standard that the best in deen is the best of people, they would not accept such an answer![/quote]
    are you in your right mind disobeying the messenger ( alahi salaam ) with your speech concerning the companions may allah be pleased with them. leave them alone. do not criticize a sahabi. this is kufr!!! they were not as you are describing them(stiffneck, jahil); fear allah!!!! these are not bible stories subhan allah no class

    do not the kuffar(banu asfar:americans-europeons-their allies) have their superior class in the yahoodi in which they give their allegiance to(ahlulul kitaab) and kill and rape muslims because of this allegiance? believing they(the yahoodi) are the chosen of allah. what did allah say to the beleivers about this kind of allegiance
    وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاءُ بَعْضٍ إِلَّا تَفْعَلُوهُ تَكُنْ فِتْنَةٌ فِي الْأَرْضِ وَفَسَادٌ كَبِيرٌ
    the disbelievers are supporters and allies of one another (in their kufr and hate and their need to put low islaam)if you do not do this(ally with one another) then there will be a tremendous fitnah in the earth!!!
    ibn kathir said that this means staying away from the mushriks domestically, manhaaj,etc.. and allying with believers. if this is not done then believers will mix with kuffar the fitnah will spread and wide and lengthy; as you see amongst us now because as a whole ummah we disobeyed this ayat and succumbed to this humiliation and now suffer from the sickness of imitations and love and thinking and even believing like the kuffar.
    why would a muslim with a western background attach himself to a people who are overwhemingly disbelievers in the oneness of allah. do you not want to show these people that there is a distinction in wrong and right. If you really wanted to break it down with the quraan and sunnah then the first thing would be is why are you using a nomenclature(white,black,african-american,caucasian)that the kafir made up. Was he guided when he came up with these terms to differentiate man? how did the prophet(alahi salaam) view the distinction of black and white? did he see it as a race-breed-lineage?
    did Allah say he made you into nations and tribes(which are lineages by the way)to know each other(reverence of family ties)? or did he say he made you into color races so that would be the standard for classifying man as the misguided kafir does? allah has favoured you all by given you islaam and put you higher than the blind arrogant kafir who can not see in front of him as of he is descending in the depths of the ocean. Allah has your back(mudabbir-ul-amr) and has put people in rightful positions so that this deen can be preserved and benefited from. be humble to your lord and accept that which our predecessors accepted as acceptance is a condtion of the shahadat

  142. Hasan frumda trey fo says:

    Salaam ‘alaykum Abdur Rahman,

    You blew that out of proportion. The Salafi position is the Islamic position. So don’t say that Salafiyyah teaches racism when it is clear that Islam does not. This superiority is from the aspect of the language (being that Arabic is the language of both the Qur’an and Sunnah), not lineage…. which would have been clear to you if you paid attention to the lecture instead of regurgitating other folks garbage and looking for something that isn’t there. But, then again, presenting the truth wasn’t your intention anyway. This is similar to folks using the hadeeth of “obeying the leader” (even if he is an Abyssinian slave with a had like a raisin) and saying that proves the Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam was racist. Where’s the context agent Muhammad? Anyway, peace Eggman.

  143. A.M.I says:

    A’uthubillah!!

    Seriously.. Is THIS what some of our so-called ‘ulama are preaching now? Is THIS what Muslims are debating over??

    There should be no superior race, we were all made equally, with the same mental and physical capabilities. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab and black over white or white over black.. (and we ALL know the Hadith I am referring to here)… So clearly attested to more than 1400 years ago.. and yet some of you squabble about these things?

    And what is this so-called “black culture”?? Are all black-skinned peoples of the same mind? Are all white skinned peoples of the same mind??… There are Muslims in Africa who are very much black, and have completely different cultures from Muslims in the US or Europe who are black…

    And there are non-Arabs who speak Arabic as eloquently as scholars, and there are Arabs who cannot even understand basic Fus’ha…

    but some of you are not catching on..
    some of our ‘ulamah are not catching on..

    How can we be an ummah when some of us pounce upon any opportunity to pronounce takfeer on others all the time? When some of us are more worried about whether our lower garments are below or above the ankle than of educating and helping our brothers and sisters in the developing world prosper?? Am I one of the only ones on here who can see beyond debates, political alignment and scholarly books to the real issues at hand? ugh!!

    Anyway, I seek refuge with Allah and Allah alone..

    Wassalam

    (I’m not even an African-American,. I am a Muslim of mixed African and Far-Eastern descent born and raised in the UK… but after reading some of these responses, I just had to write something on here)

  144. abulhaarith says:

    After reading through what Abu Usaamah Khalifah has said, I see that either he cannot express his view correctly or that people cannot simply understand what he’s saying. I do not believe that Abu Usaamah thinks Arabs are superior to non-Arabs as a race.

    Rather if you analyze the affair from a whole, you should look as to why the scholars of the Salaf DID say that the Arabs are Afdal from the non-Arab.

    al-Qurtubee (from Cordoba, Spain) said in his Tafseer (1/141):

    أفضل من العجم

    ((They are better than the ‘Ajam))

    This is not because they are “superior” as a race. Rather it is the command of the language as the Qur’aan is in the language of the ‘Arab. Not only will the Arab understand the Qur’aan more easily than the non-Arab, but the ‘Arab understand the Usloob (I guess expressions would be the best translation).

    Does this mean that if your blood is not Arab you are lower than them? Of course not. Because many of the Salaf considered the one whose tongue was Arab to be from amongst them. Such as the likes of Ibn Seebawayh who was African and other than him.

    This is a translated article from Ibn Taymiyyah on the definition of an Arab:

    http://salafimanhaj.com/pdf/SalafiManhaj_TheDefinitionofanArab.pdf

  145. Aboo Abdillaah U says:

    This is not because they are “superior” as a race.

    This is not from the statements of the salaf. They have stated very clearly that the Arabs as a people are superior and further that the imarah (leadership) should not held except a man from the Quraish. This is a clear indication of the status and the position the Arabs have in this deenul haqq.

    Can a person become a Quraishi simply because he knows Arabic? Of course not. Do the Ahl Bayt not have a special status in our deen? All of this shows that the Arabs are indeed superior to the non-Arabs and this is from our deen and this is the position of Ahlus Sunnah

  146. abulhaarith says:

    Correct that the Arab as a race has a status in the religion, but not in a way which is due to merely their race.

    Shaykhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned in his Iqtidhaa Siraat al Mustaqeem 1/154 the Hadeeth of the Prophet salallaahu alaihi wa salam:

    إن الله اصطفى من ولد إبراهيم إسماعيل واصطفى من ولد إسماعيل بني كنانة

    ((Allaah raised in rank from the children of Ibraaheem: Ismaa’eel and raised in rank from the children of Ismaa’eel Banee Kannaanah))

    At-Tirmidhee commented saying:

    هذا حديث صحيح وهذا يقتضي أن إسماعيل وذريته صفوة ولد إبراهيم، فيقتضي أنهم أفضل من ولد إسحق، ومعلوم أن ولد إسحق الذين هم بنو إسرائيل أفضل العجم، لما فيهم من النبوة والكتاب

    ((This Hadeeth is Saheeh and this shows that Ismaa’ee and his offspring are the preferred children of Ibraaheem and this shows that they are better than the children of Ishaaq, and it is known that the children of Ishaaq, those who are Banee Israa’eel are the best of the ‘Ajam (foreigners), because of what they have from the prophethood and the Books.))

    However what i’m commenting on is that people here are looking at it from a racial point of view.

    Shaykh ibn Baaz rahimahullaah has made an excellent point in the issue of race and discrimination based upon nationality:

    http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showtopic=45

  147. abulhaarith says:

    This is the longer Arabic text of Shaykh Ibn Baaz’s statements:

    http://binbaz.org.sa/mat/8191

  148. islamthought says:

    the author of this very post turely has jahl murakaba because he interpreted the classical stnce of the Aimah as some kind of racisim

    here is a in-depth analysis of the issue for anyone who wishes to fully study the issue with more insight

    http://islamthought.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/the-innovation-of-shuoobism-deciphering-between-nobility-and-racism-and-te-common-miscontruence-of-the-two/

    secondly, the isna/isna shiyokkh are not the shiyookh of anything except for properly modernist propaganda.

    jazakallahu khairan Abul-Harith. Everyone is looking at it from the western i.e. racist POV rather than a matter of nobility which was in detail, broken down in the link provided above.

    in the above link, it explains the categories of bida of shu’oob because this innovation riginally started with the shia, the end result being the eradication of arabic language in their region and basic Islamic custom which in trun cut the generality of the people in perisa off from Islam allowing the people of kufr to dominate the shi’ia religion.

    asalamu alaikum

  149. .. says:

    The author of the orginal post is completely and utterly right in his assessment. The imam is clearly a racist or has issues or a personal complex with his own race. Very unfortunate and very much not in line with the Koran.

    Unfortunately many non-arabs have started to practise this set of bidah belief, which essentially creates difference between arabs and non-arabs.

    “The ruling relevant to non-Arabs is as follows: ‘An Ajmi (non-Arab) cannot
    be a match for a woman of Arab descent, no matter that he be an Aalim
    (religious scholar) or even a Sultan (ruling authority). This is the correct
    view.) ”

    http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/ask.pl?q=6225&act=view

    These are the stance of ebrahim desai from South Africa part of a lengthy reply to the question whether a non-arab muslim man can (ajami) marry an arab muslim girl. The disgust at the mere thought of non-arab touching an arab is self evident.

    What is slightly amusing, is that Allah himself does not make such a distinction. In fact he tells us there was no particular reason why he descended the koran in arab to arabs other than that being the language spoken in that part of the world then. Same way as the old testament was revealed to hebrew speaking people and thus is in hebrew.

    It is unfortunate that non-arabs hold such a view as this only manifests the racism as being an inherent part of Islam, which is not part of Allah’s revelations.

    Race, cast, super races are all manmade and bidah and un-islamic, which makes such imams and their race inferiority complex a figment of their imagination – at best.

  150. .. says:

    Another salafi imam shows the ugly face of racism, Aiman al-zawahiri:

  151. Ibn Mubaarak says:

    bismillaah wal humdulillaah
    Uss salawaatu wass salaam ‘alun nabeey

    I think some points are being made out of context here. The ‘arab’ being referred to by the ulema is the linguistic arab and to some extent the cultural arab. It does not refer to the racial (genetic) arab.

    Linguistically, it is obviously superior to speak arabic than to not speak arabic as Allaah chose arabic as the language of final revelation.

    Culturally, there are some noble arabic cultural elements embodied in the sunnah. Elements that were also carried down from Ibraheem and Ishmaeel – peace be upon them.

    The evil aspects of arabic culture have also been shunned via the sunnah.

    Furthermore, if certain peoples attack the muslims based on their beliefs, culture and attire – why would one want to imitate these enemies of Islaam?

    Also, historically – the enemies of Islaam who plotted against the prophet and mocked him – peace be upon him – would like certain styles of clothing and behaviour – what honor is there in imitating them or their modern version descendants?

    In the above context, clearly there no longer is any contradiction between the various evidences on the issue.

    And Allaah knows best

  152. dj says:

    The issue pertains to race also. The mufti in the beforementioned fatwa in fact cites racial superiority and does not believe that a nonarab is equal with an arab, hence such forbids such marriages. As for linguistic superiority, there is no such thing baseless claim in direct violation with the Quran, hence the word of Allah.

    And there is something wrong, when men, who are supposed to guide or inform others, are now preaching racism and race superiority.

    Fact: The quran was revealed in arabic only because that so happened to be the language of the people in the region, where Allah chose to reveal Islam.

    Fact: The quran does not distinguish between race, creed, ethnicity, nationality or even religion. In fact all are equal created from the same clay.

    These facts are stated in the Quran and show beyond reason of doubt that some “ulema” are suffering from either superiority complexes (arabs) or inferiority complexes (nonarabs) and now directly misleading through their dawah and preaching the ummah.

    There is no such thing as linguistic superiorty.

    The choice of arabic from Allah was a pragmatic one so that people could understand. It would make little sense to reveal it in chinese to the middleeast or in hebrew to Africa.

    Such contradictions and misguided teachings must be renounced and must be objected. Clearly the momin has better chances of learning about Islam by studying it himself/herself.

    Allah indeed knows best and he has spoken. Arabic is not superior linguistically and being arab is not superior to being nonarabic.

  153. nativeamerican says:

    First off I want to say this, if the people of the U.S. were as delegent, devoted, loyal to GOD as followers of other beliefs. We would’nt be in the situation this country is in, but we cater to Aethist because we don’t want to offend anyone. What do you think would happen in one of the middle east countries if they had aetheist standing up telling them they couldn’t show in public view anything that depicts any religious favoritizism, or conviction, he would be meeting GOD, real soon.
    Second, I don’t know what the Quaran says, but I’m pretty sure a loving GOD would not tell his people to kill everyone that’s not Muslim. God is love, GOD, is all about Love. I mean why would he have his followers do this when he is almighty and powerful, couldn’t he do it in a blink of an eye, that way he wouldn’t be confusing his “CHOOSEN ONES” As far as Arabs, Muslims whatever being more favorable than non’s, this is not true. If they are more favored by GOD and are superior and no one else is going to Heaven, why are non’s here, are they just targets. See this is a flaw of mans created, imposed religion’s as there are alot of both, mans religion and flaws. GODS law has no flaws, Israel were the choosen people, but when CHRIST came and was murdered by them, that was changed to include all mankind. This was what was to happen, they had no control over it, it was of GOD. God scoffs at mans “intelligents”, it a joke to him. The BIBLE, is his word, we found the Dead Sea scrolls that proves this. Have we ever found anything like this that supports any other religion, NO. Therefore, there is no other law of GOD, only the BIBLE. In the end, we will all stand before GOD as individuals, and this wil be straightened out with no arguement.

  154. Adnan says:

    asalaam alaykum,

    please could you refer to this thread, as it cleared up my misunderstandings on this issue

    The Bid’ah of Shu’oobism (الشعوبية)
    http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=1149

  155. islamthought says:

    thank you adnan

    I am the member al-boriqee on that thread specifically. what I posted above was a compiliation of that thread on my site.

    apparently there is a lot of ignorance to the subject whereby people have misconstrued something for something else, in this case interpreting nobility AS racisim thereby making tashbeeh of the two wallahul-musta’an

  156. norace says:

    Why must the race card always be pulled? A disenfranchised attitude will beget the same in kind and bring about that very thing. Set the angry black man aside, it’s tired. Spend all that energy just living under Allah and being pleasing to Him. There is NO master race, since Allah created everyone different so that they might know one another. We are all slaves of Allah.

    • Ibn Hisham says:

      There is NO master race, since Allah created everyone different so that they might know one another.

      Except for the Arabs who are clearly superior to all others

      • AllEqual says:

        “Except for the Arabs who are clearly superior to all others”

        Shameless lie.

        That is just racist and has no justification in Islam.

        In Allah’s view ALL are equal. There is not such thing as Arabs being “clearly” superior to “others”.

        They are all homo sapians and because the Qur’an was revealed in Arabic does not mean Arabs are superior.

        Claiming such racist nonsense is ignorance and bidah and twisting Allah’s words:

        ” O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). ”

        But clearly evading the words of Allah serves in favour of the Arabic racism.´

        It is safe to say, Arabs are clearly in no way superior to all others.

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  159. Samer says:

    i just want to know, where exactly in the Quran does it say that Arabs are superior? Quran came to demolish this thought that Arabs had of themselves.

  160. gentlemen1 says:

    O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one’s] faith. And whoever does not repent – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.{49:11 quran}

  161. gentlemen1 says:

    O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.{49:12 quran}

  162. gentlemen1 says:

    O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.{49:13 quran}

  163. gentlemen1 says:

    Those who avoid the major sins and immoralities, only [committing] slight ones. Indeed, your Lord is vast in forgiveness. He was most knowing of you when He produced you from the earth and when you were fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So do not claim yourselves to be pure; He is most knowing of who fears Him.{53:32 quran}

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  166. suleman osman says:

    This guy is so wrong as a muslim I can say his view on this matter is wrong in the eyes of nearly all Muslims as it states in the teachings of our profit that “no arab is superior to a non – Arab nor a black man to a white man or vice versa” as Muslims we believe people must only be judged by there deeds and intentions. Not race or social standing

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  170. Hussein Wasserman says:

    This arab / maghrebian supremacy reminds me why I took up Shia. When the believers are from different nations diverse under the sun, Allah becomes more important than lineage, as it should be. We will be judged on belief and deeds and nothing more.

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