Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid and New York Imams Do the Right Thing. UPDATE: Johari Abdul-Malik joins in

Posted: November 22, 2008 in Uncategorized
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Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid

Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid

UPDATE: Johari Abdul-Malik has also weighed in on this issue. I must give credit here as well for coming out strongly against these evil people

UPDATE II: Electronic Village has made this racist and murderous man the current “Village Villain”

I want to extend a heartfelt appreciation to brother Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid and all the principled Imams of the New York area, who stood up yesterday in a press conference to condemn the racist attack of al Qaida leader Ayman Zawahiri against President-Elect Barack Obama, General Colin Powell, and Secretary of State Condolizza Rice. Invoking Malcolm X, Zawahiri called all three respected Americans “House Negros”.

Imam Talib and the brothers are to be applauded for their strength and integrity, especially for highlighting the historical fact that Arabs, Zarwahiri’s people, never lifted a finger to advance the cause of Black civil rights in this country!

The imams called the recorded comments from al Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri, “an insult” from people who have “historically been disconnected from the African-American community generally and Muslim African-Americans in particular.”

In their statement, released from what was once the Audubon Ballroom, the site of Malcolm’s assassination and is now the Malcolm X, Dr Betty Shabazz Memorial and Educational Center, they also rejected the presumed right of anyone to speak on the behalf of African American Muslims. Although a little belated, it is still greatly appreciated. Perhaps challenges in securing the center were responsible for that.

Good job brother!

  1. Shibli Zaman says:

    as-salamu `alaykum, brother,

    African-American leaders have been calling Barack Obama a “House Negro” LONG before he was ever elected president and LONG before Zawahiri made this insipid statement.

    Why such a high profile rejection of this slur against Obama now, and then previous when African-Americans were saying it themselves?

    I am as against Zawahiri and al-Qaeda as you, but, at the same time, such obvious double standards are definitely not in the interest of African-Americans.

  2. Shibli Zaman,

    Which Black leaders are you talking about that called Barack Obama a “House Negro”? Give me their names. Apparently you didn’t see every last single one of them expressing joy and jubilation at Obama’s victory. So which leaders are you speaking about?

  3. DJR says:

    There is such a thing as band wagon when writing open letters, hopefully the Imams statement will begin one. If Muslim Americans would speak out loud and clear maybe the air would begin to clear in the middle east. No one is aloud to speak against the president of our country without receiving my rebuke. I guess I would take it more seriously if it wasn’t from a cave servant living a life full of hatred. America and especially Mr. Obama have things of importance to do, (Z) Wawa is a nuisance. Printing his crapola has no place in our present media. File it … under CS, Chicken….

  4. soldier-cold says:

    zawahiri is a fool if he think blacks or anyone else will just run to his group after hearing this sh*t. divide and conquer is all he is trying to do. 9/11 did not discriminate against black muslims who were killed in the attacks and even if they were not killed. african-americans ARE Americans and will stand together with everyone in this multi-cultural, multi-ethinic country. one thing is for sure, al qaeda is afraid of a UNITED America.

  5. johnrj08 says:

    When I watched the events unfold at Grant Park on the night of November 4th, I had trouble holding back tears of pride. It was truly a great moment for a country that has suffered so much at the hands of ignorance and bigotry. As a middle class white man, I realize that the United States still has a long way to go, but the nation as a whole redeemed itself on that election day, setting aside the lies and distortions of one of the most despicable presidential campaigns since Andrew Jackson ran against John Quincy Adams. If you think about it, this election is really something about which the whole human race should have felt proud because hate has by no means been exclusive to America. When an entire nation overcomes generations of prejudice, that is something to watch. In stark contrast, Zawahiri’s hateful statement, which was constructed to divide our country and let us know that we are, in their eyes, beyond any possible redemption. It was an anenmic and hypocritical attempt to throw cold water on the joy many Americans are feeling today, especially African-Americans. I am elated and very proud of the Islamic community in the United States which has spoken out so loud and clear against this latest diatribe of hate by a small group of bearded old men who are no more genuine Muslims than I.

  6. Khadija says:

    Al Hamdulilah!

    Wa Salaam.

  7. Saalakhan says:

    Assalaamu Alaikum (Greetings of Peace):

    As someone who voted for Obama (and encouraged others to do the same, when asked) – and as someone who STILL supports his ascendency to the presidency, while having serious concerns about the moves he’s made with inner circle appointments thus far – and as a human rights advocate of African-American Muslim stock (with a long record of service and sacrifice to the community), I feel comfortably qualified to weigh in on this little controversy; a controversy stoked by outside forces INIMICAL to African American and/or Muslim interests.

    I did not feel offended at all by what Zawahiri had to say (if indeed he did say what’s been attributed to him). It was not a racial slur, it was a PERSONAL attack based on politics. And if he said it, I know exactly where he was coming from, indeed what motivated that choice of symbolism. If I were in his shoes, I would probably feel the same way.

    As for prominent Black Americans who have used similar language against other Black Americans in high places; someone who immediately comes to mind is Harry Belafonte (a socially committed artist for whom I have enormous respect). Belafonte used the same language to criticize Colin Powell, not long after his regrettable performance at the UN (leading up to the full scale war on Iraq). And while his remarks generated controversy within America’s Black community, a significant percentage of the community (this writer included) agreed with the strong, uncompromising criticism of Powell (and, if my memory serves me correctly, Condoleeza Rice).

    So again, while I am still willing to give President-elect Barack Obama the benefit of the doubt, I completely understand where that symbolic criticism was coming from. I pray that history will prove it to have been without merit. (We all know that time is the best tester of men and ideas.)

    Insha’Allah, I plan to write a more extensive commentary on this issue for the readers of our listserve in the coming days, but for now, in conclusion, I again feel it necessary to counsel my brothers (and sisters) to stop being so damn REACTIONARY. These nefarious enemies of Islam and humanity know just how to push the right buttons to get us reacting and attacking (each other). It’s time for this to stop!

    In the struggle for peace thru justice,

    El-Hajj Mauri’ Saalakhan

    p.s. And for those who may be wondering, I have never been, and will never be, a supporter of Al-Qaeda.

  8. Salaakhan

    “Reactionary”! “Attacking one another”!

    Man have you lost your damn mind! What in God’s name is wrong with you Salaakhan, how could you possibly give any credibility to this racist, murderous psycho-path and then presume to lecture us on how to parse the butcher’s words correctly? Who the hell are you to lecture anyone Salaakhan?

    You’re the perfect, sad example of a Black American Muslim whose been completely de-racialized under the pernicious influence of radical Islamic ideology. You’ve been submerged in that dark, murky, conspiritorial world of the radical Muslim underground so long that you identify more with sick, twisted men like Zawahiri than you do your own Black community, who were viciously attacked by this bastard.

    These comments are sad and embarrassing, and reveal why we have to do everything in our power to break the back of anti-American, radical propaganda in this country, especially among Black folks.

    Salaakhan I mean this; I hope you get no more speaking engagments and no, I won’t be purchasing your next “book”. You’re so deep into that bulls$#t that you don’t realize its Zawahiri who is the “nefarious enemy to Islam and humanity”. This is sick Salaakhan, really, really sick.

    Let me share this with you man because apparently you didn’t get the memo; WE ARE AMERICANS AND AL QAIDAH IS OUR ENEMY! Oh yeah that’s right, you still believe the Jews committed 9/11, I forgot you wrote a “book” on that too.

  9. @ Salaakhan

    It is ok to admit that you support the mujahideen. We met before and I know where you stand on them

  10. Wali Ameen says:

    Mr Salaakhan

    The Muslim leadership is opposed to you on this. You have no following or influence. No one cares what you think

  11. Saalakhan says:

    I hope that everyone visiting this particular blog pays close attention to the language and tone of the argumentation being made. (For this is one of those very important teaching and revealing moments.)

    1). AR has accused me of giving “credibility to a racist, murdous psycho-path,” for simply stating the obvious; that Zawahari did not make a racial slur, he merely hurled a personal, political attack against the president-elect. (If in fact he is still alive, and indeed was the source of that propaganda attack.)

    2). I stand by my conclusion that a number of Muslim organizations (and individuals) REACTED as they often do, when certain buttons are pushed by America’s secular propagandists. I also believe that some (if not most) of these reactionary tendencies are OPPORTUNISTIC. For some of the “major” Muslim organizations (and personalities) it may be a way of conveying the message to the modern day Firun that we are on your side boss. For others, it provides a fresh opportunity to launch emotional attacks against their ever present nemesis among the Muslims. (Case in point, AR’s immediate and fundamentally un-Islamic attack on MANA, for its failure to move as quickly as the arrogant AR felt they should have moved with a reactionary condemnation.)

    3). AR, despite your intellect and argumentative gifts, you resort to the same type of vacuous response that all other propagandists respond with, whenever they find themselves trapped in an intellectual quagmire of their own making: personal attack! You write: “You’re the perfect, sad example of a Black American Muslim whose been completely de-racialized under the pernicious influence of radical Islamic ideology.”

    In another observation, that could have come right out of the playbook of a Fox network ideologue, you wrote: “These comments are sad and embarrassing, and reveal why we have to do everything in our power to break the back of anti-American, radical propaganda in this country, especially among Black folks.”

    4). This personal tirade raises a number of questions for me. AR, once upon a time you were one of the most VERBALLY radical brothers on the block. I vividly recall having conversations with you in the not-to-distant past wherein I found myself: (a) defending the late Imam WDM (and the community he led) from some of your vitriolic attacks; (b) cautioned you on the uselessness of your blind, emotional attacks on the NOI and its leadership; and most notedly, perhaps (c) debated with you on your blind, emotional support and DEFENSE of some of the very types of Muslims and movements that you now CONVENIENTLY DENOUNCE!

    While you suggest that I have been for too long “submerged in that dark, murky, conspiritorial world of the radical Muslim underground,” my positions have been surprisingly CONSISTENT over the years, while many of yours have changed dramatically!

    Question: Did you receive the type of VISIT that ended up putting the fear of [a secular] god in you? Have you been RECRUITED to openly engage in the type of propaganda campaigns that you are now engaged in?

    I couldn’t help but wonder if your following words were a FREUDIAN SLIP: “Let me share this with you man because apparently you didn’t get the memo; WE ARE AMERICANS AND AL QAIDAH IS OUR ENEMY!” (An interesting choice of words, AR. If you are still a Muslim, and have not gone back on your faith, you really need to get a grip, my brother.)

    I would strongly urge that all truly committed Muslims – and the sincere and peacefully inclined non-Muslims of other persuasions – who regularly visit this man’s blog (and others like it), be very careful of what you read. Weigh the arguments with dilligent care, and take nothing for granted.

    5). As far as your other closing comments are concerned, you’ve never purchased any of my books. What you’ve read was given to you. And as far as your “hope” that I not get any more speaking engagements… it’s like a dog barking at the moon; your “hope” has no consequence whatsoever. (And no, I’m not likening you to a dog, AR. So calm down. I’m just employing a common expression to make an important point.)

    An ever growing audience of people around the country (Muslims AND non-Muslims) value what I have to say on many of the major issues of the day; and while some doors (here and there) may close, far more are openning up all the time, alhamdullilah. (I’m sorry if “brothers” like you find such news depressing.)

    On the “enemy” tip, I don’t need anyone like you to lecture me on who “the nefarious enemy to Islam and humanity” is. I’ve been on the frontline far too long to need your counsel, akhi. Zawahiri is a small fish. Unfortunately, “brothers” like you are fixated (for whatever your reasons) on the small fish, while throwing the big fish back in the water to commit more global mayhem and destruction.

    6). And finally, as regards “TawheedNotShirk’s” remark: “It is ok to admit that you support the mujahideen. We met before and I know where you stand on them.”

    My life and views, like my identity on this blog, is an open book. Of course I support (in my own humble way) LEGITIMATE MUJAHIDEEN anywhere in the world – i.e., those who are oppressed and victimized, and whose jihad, and manner in conducting jihad, is according to the Book of ALLAH and the Sunnah of the Prophet (saaw). My writings and speeches going back many years reveal a consistent, foundational opposition to nationalistic or sectarian jihad (whether it be in the name of secularism or religion).

    Furthermore, unlike AR, I have AWAYS been opposed to the indiscriminant killing of innocent non-combatants (whether Muslim or non-Muslim) anywhere in the world – and I have never defended the actions of those who engage in such atrocities! I am equally opposed to all other forms of ANARCHY in the name of religion.

    But I am also opposed to STATE-SPONSORED TERRORISM, especially when it’s being committed by my own government; and this opposition will never change, as long as I have breath in my body. (In this stance I am in good company, with men such as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz, aka “Malcolm X.” (May ALLAH be pleased with them both.)

    In the struggle for peace thru justice,

    El-Hajj Mauri’ Saalakhan

  12. @ Salaakhan

    Of course I support (in my own humble way) LEGITIMATE MUJAHIDEEN anywhere in the world – i.e., those who are oppressed and victimized, and whose jihad, and manner in conducting jihad, is according to the Book of ALLAH and the Sunnah of the Prophet (saaw)

    This is what you told me and you told me personally that you support those fighting against the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tell me who those are except Al-Qaidah? (especially in Afghanistan)

    The more of us stand up to these opportunistic people putting down the mujahideen the better. Continue to stand up Salaakhan as there are more voices like yours NEEDED to be heard in the United States who will tell them what they need to hear

  13. Saalakhan says:


    Let me be clear to the readers on what my position is. I am opposed to the brutal U.S. military occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq. I am opposed to the genocidal occupations of Palestine, Chechnya, Kashmir, etc., and I support the peoples’ inalienable RIGHT – according to the Shariah of Islam, and well established international law – to resist those occupations. (And for the record, I am equally opposed to brutal occupations that victimize predominantly non-Muslim peoples in different parts of the world as well.)

    Toward this end, whenever possible, I have demonstrated over the years a consistent willingness to use the power of the tongue and the power of the pen (in addition to my prayers) as weapons of support for those who are being oppressed. As our Prophet (saaw) has said: “When you see an evil action you must change it with your hand; if you cannot do so, with your tongue; if you cannot do so, detest it within your heart, and that is the weakest degree of faith.”

    That being said, I do not support military resistance that violates the command of ALLAH (swt) – i.e. that targets non-combatants and/or deliberately destroys civilian infrastructure. I do not support anarchy in the name of “jihad,” and I definately do not support the taking of ANY innocent blood.

    While even the blood of non-Muslim, non-combatants in a WAR ZONE is considered sacred and off limits for a Muslim warrior, I have been especially aggrieved by the cavalier way in which Muslim blood is indicriminantly taken by so-called jihadists (esp. in places like Afghanistan and Iraq). Our beloved Prophet’s admonition on this issue (then and now) was very clear:

    “He who is killed under the banner of a man who is blind (to the cause for which he is fighting), who gets flared up with family pride and fights for his tribe, is not from my Ummah. And whosoever from my followers attacks my followers (indiscriminantly), killing the righteous and the wicked from among them, sparing not even those who are staunch in faith, and fulfilling not his promise made with those who have been given a pledge of security – he has nothing to do with me, and I have nothing to do with him.” (source: Sahih Muslim, Vol 3)

    The Prophet (saaw) also said: A Muslim is the brother of a Muslim; he neither oppresses him, nor does he fail him; he neither lies to him, nor does he hold him in contempt… The whole of a Muslim for another Muslim is inviolable: his BLOOD, his PROPERTY, and his HONOR.” (Sahih Muslim and Bukhari)

    I have long ago ceased to be impressed with (or respond to) labels. Irrespective of what an individual Muslim or group is known by, if they conduct Islamic resistance on the battlefield within these clearly defined and divinely-given limits, they have my full support. (If they don’t, they do not.)

    To my brothers who appear to be evolving into a super Muslim-American style patriotism (esp. in the wake of Obama’s victory at the polls), a note of caution is in order. If you truly love America (as I do, believe it or not), you will WORK HARD to do as much as you possibly can to force this country to live up to the better part of itself (as I have been striving to do).

    If you are not using patriotism as a shield to hide your fear, or if you’re not trying to PIMP the moment for a little self-aggrandizement, it behooves us all to remember the words of Sheikh ibn Taymeeyah, and the noble Caliph of Islam, Ali ibn Abu Talib (r).

    Ibn Taymeeyah said: “Civilization is rooted in justice, and the consequences of oppression are devastating. Therefore, it is said that ALLAH aids the just state even if it is non-Muslim, yet withholds his help from the oppressive state, even if it is Muslim.”

    Imam Ali is reported to have said: “Three classes of men are cut off from the blessings of Paradise: oppressors; those who aid and abet oppression; and those who tolerate oppression.” (May ALLAH spare us from ending up among these three classes of men.)

    I think I’ve said enough; this will be my last posting on this issue. Ma’asalaam.


  14. IBN ABDUL HAQQ says:

    ASA El-Hajj Mauri’ Saalakhan May Allah Bless You for your sobering words. As a veteran of
    many wars the frantic flag waving is profitable but not impressive. Having shared fox holes and bunkers with good ol boys.As a Muslim I will wait and see what an Obama administration brings.

    To Imam Talib Rashid may Allah continue to guide you and MANA to the best conduct. I have watched your growth and development for over 30 yrs.We need Brothers like you who have not forgotten who we are, and where we came from.
    May Allah forgive your past errors and forgive us all . By the way all the enemies have been forgiven from the political wars except Rev. Wright.

    I will not jump on the Obama bandwagon because he is Black,Intelligent or other fine attributes he may have. I will pray that he shows justice to my people (Muslim,Black, oppressed). If he does may Allah S.WT.make him successful, if not may Allah ruin his
    his efforts. I say unashamedly this Deen is the only hope for humanity

  15. Luqman Abdel Magied says:

    How Opportunistic Writers Sway for Money
    By Luqman Abdel Magied

    Like a rancher’s dogs protect property against animals or strangers perceived as threatening, the ruling class of every society retains a persuasion of writers and journalists who they occasionally release to protect the big house against any external or domestic attack, either real or imagined. Seemingly, the black writer Stanley Crouch reclines rather comfortably inside that literary doghouse and has been released by the masters of the ruling class to weigh in as a judge in a recent but fairly complicated politically charged debate.
    The debate swirls around Ayman al-Zawahiri’s newly minted psychological war, recently launched against the U.S.A. Aimed straight at the racially charged Achilles heel of America’s black political establishment, with a previously unseen sinister cleverness, al-Zawahiri compares and contrasts the first black U.S. President Elect Barack Obama to the black American Muslim activist El Hajj Malik Shabazz, affectionately known as Malcolm X. At the very least al-Zawahiri hopes to bring black American Muslims in particular—and Muslims residing in America in general, to a point of confusion where they will ultimately deny further support of and eventually split with the new black President Barack Obama. Al-Zawahiri hopes to use Muslims in America like toilet paper and maintains a posture recognized and described in Islamic theology as that of a Munafiq (those who are in rebellion against God).
    Under-trained, weaponless, and without enough experience in matters of strategic, psychological, politically sensitive and of trans-national persuasion, Stanley Crouch jokingly, has been sent to confront al-Zawahiri, a seasoned pro in his business. Predictably, and with the ego of a buffoon, the first thing Crouch does is play into al-Zawahiri’s hands by creating a confrontation within the black American Diaspora by attacking El Hajj Malik Shabazz; to whom Ossie Davis referred in his moving eulogy “our own shining black prince.”
    Like a black Don Quixote wondering aimlessly in the wilderness, will Crouch now declare a failure, Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman, Paul Robeson, Harry Belafonte, Cornell West, Danny Glover, Bill Cosby and Randall Robinson? Regardless of their religion, politics, income, education or gender, blacks in America overwhelmingly support President Barack Obama, as well as remembering black historical figures with deep affection. And blacks don’t have to venture into the cemetery and over turn the grave-stones of black historical patriarchs to satisfy the powers that be who love to see black people fighting each other. Maybe all Americans should begin to question Stanley Crouch’s patriotism and question who and what he is really working for.■

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