Where is “Big Bilal”? A Daughter’s Plea For Answers.

Posted: May 31, 2009 in Uncategorized
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About a couple of months ago, a comment appeared on this blog by a sister named Sayyidah Abdullah Rahman. She is the daughter of “Big Bilal” Abdullah Rahman, who along with brother Muhammad Ahmed was one of the two Muslims murdered in the now infamous 1974 shoot out at the Ya Sin Masjid in Brooklyn, NY. In retaliation, two other Muslims were  also killed during the attack, bringing the total number dead that cold February night to four. Another brother who was also badly wounded did manage to survive, but would have to live out the rest of his life in a wheelchair. Miss Rahman asked that I share with her whatever information I may have on her father because my blog is the first time she has ever seen anything about her father in print.

She explained to me later in our conversations that she was only two years-old when her father was killed, and that the subject has always been strictly taboo in her family. Whenever Big Bilal or Muhammad Ahmed’s name would come up in conversation, the room would immediately go quiet and someone would change the subject. Information about this case has been so tightly held that there’s never been an arrest in it. It may also explain why Sayyidah Abdullah Rahman, an intelligent 36 year-old mother of six, has never been told the location of her father’s final remains. Even her mother refuses to tell her! As one can imagine, she is quite angry and demanding some answers.

This tragic episode came back into the public spotlight after it was included in my well received five part series, Why Blackamerican Muslims Don’t Stand For Justice, one of the first articles to appear on this blog. In part two of that series, I presented a brief analysis of why I believed the Black Islamic movements of the late 60’s and early 70’s failed to produce any kind of national, social justice agenda, and in the course of that discussion I referenced the Ya Sin shoot out. While most younger Muslims had never even heard of the tragedy, older “movement workers” were disturbed that I would even bring the thing up. What they found particularly troubling was its assertion that Ahmed Tawfiq, founding Imam of the Mosque of Islamic Brotherhood (M.I.B), was responsible for the blood bath.

This eventually evoked a response from Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid, Tawfiq’s successor at M.I.B and deputy Amir of MANA, where he seemed to suggest that culpability for what happened 35 years ago in Brooklyn was somehow unclear. In essence, he tried to challenge the judgment of history which squarely lays the blame for what happened on his mentor Ahmed Tawfiq, who along with his crew of Muslim goons, went to the Ya Sin masjid that night intending to kill its Imam, Yahyah Abdul-Kareem. What jarred me most about the Imam’s response was the remark that “those who say don’t know, and those who know don’t say”. I thought that was a morally indefensible and trite statement in reference to murder, and said so at the time.

Sayyidah’s Story

That ongoing public dialogue led sister Sayyidah to start exploring questions of her father’s whereabouts once again. The story she shared with me of her life growing up in the Darul Islam Movement literally brought tears to my eyes. She was born in 1972, at the very height of the fratricidal warfare that characterized Black Islam at the time. Only a year later an entire Muslim family would be massacred in a Washington D.C. home purchased by the then new Muslim, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. The slaughter resulted after the basketball champion’s Imam, Hamaas Abdul-Khalis, sent extremely incendiary letters to Nation of Islam ministers across the country insulting Elijah Muhammad and W.D. Fard. That killing would soon spill over into the beef between the M.I.B and the Dar, who at the time were accusing Ahmed Tawfiq and the M.I.B of collaborating with the N.O.I. To this day there are still many Muslims in New York who will swear that N.O.I. people were with Tawfiq that fateful night at the Ya Sin masjid. It was also around that period that the Nation of Islam minister in Newark, N.J, a man who had briefly replaced Malcolm X at Temple Number 7 in New York after his assassination, James Shabazz, was shot in the face outside of his home by a break-away faction. Not long after, at the instigation of Minister Louis Farrakhan, the alleged perpetrators of the killing were found decapitated in a park close to Shabazz’s home. This kind of madness continued. There was even some potentially murderous hostilities between the Washington, D.C based Islamic Party and the Darul Islam. In any event, these were the times Sayyidah was brought up in. Her mother knew her father (an older man at the time) as a youth, but later married Big Bilal (born Patrick Quince) and joined him in the Darul Islam. Sayyidah remembers her grandmother sharing with her mother concern’s that the group was really a cult and to stay clear of it, but out of love for her husband she ignored the advice. As a child born into the insular, secretive subculture of a group exhibiting all of the characteristics of a cult, dis-function took on the appearance of normalcy. She would be about 20 years-old before she began to see that things were not right. Multiple marriages and divorces were common place, and young girls were married off before having a chance at a real education. Some of what was pawned off as ‘Islamic teaching” was in her words, “strange”. Sayyidah was told not to worry about school too much “because I was pretty and would easily get a husband”, which is exactly what happened. At 14, she was married off to a much older man, and by the time she was 24 already had six children! She was 7 years-old before she would learn that her step-father, long time New York Imam Alamin Abdul-Latif, leader of the Iqamatul Deen movement, was not her biological father. This in turn led her to ask tough questions about her real father, which when not rebuffed outright, were answered with completely erroneous information. “I was told that non-Muslims did it after busting into the Masjid”.

She was also told that the killings happened in September when in fact they occurred in February. In short, everything was done to obstruct and obscure the facts of what took place the night her father was gunned down… by other Muslims. And until reading my post about this incident, she’d  never even seen anything about it. One of those “strange teachings” she mentioned claimed that a widow had to remarry within five months, which Sayyidah’s mother followed to the letter. And what is unquestionably the most infuriating aspect to all of this for Miss Rahman, after losing a father at such an early age of course, was discovering later that you’d been taken to the very masjid of the man responsible for your father’s death and forced to listen to his rantings. Perhaps the most inexplicable, if indeed unforgivable thing for Sayyidah to accept is the sad fact that her parents would actually visit the M.I.B. masjid and listen to Ahmed Tawfiq give talks. “Why did they have to make me listen to that man (Tawfiq)? I remember hearing him speak many times, and my ummi would always become upset whenever he spoke, and I would say ‘ummi what’s wrong’?”

The Tragic Tale Of Yusef Abdullah Rahman

For me the most gut wrenching part of Miss Rahman’s story is the tragic tale of her older brother, Yusef Abdullah Rahman, a sweet young boy turned into a monster after being dragged into the dark, demented world of another dangerous and apocalyptic cult. 13 years before we ever heard the names John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo, the notorious “DC Snipers” who unleashed a three week reign of terror which left 10 people dead and 3 wounded, there was the “Riverhead Sniper” of Long Island. In 1989, a crazed killer shot and killed one person and badly wounded 3 others in a quiet community called Riverhead over a period of about a week. That sniper was 20 year-old Yusef Abdullah Rahman. Rahman later when on to confess to five other murders in Kansas City, Mo.  How did this happen?

One of the sad consequences of Big Bilal’s death was that his large family, consisting of three wives and ten children, was completely broken apart. His widows found new husbands, which by itself created a degree of separation for the children. More devastating however was the dissolution of the Darul Islam movement in 1983, with roughly half  its membership deciding to follow the radical Pakistani Sheikh Mubarak Jilani, and soon after began calling themselves “Jamaatul Fuqra”. The other half gave their allegiance to Imam Jamil Alamin, the former sixties militant otherwise known as H. Rap Brown (now serving a life sentence for murdering a black police officer). This dissolution and split of the Darul Islam for the children was both traumatic and tragic. Yusef’s mother and her husband went with the Fuqra, and from the tender age of 6 he found himself  submerged in a world saturated with incessant rhetoric of Jihad and military preparedness. Whenever he tried to make unsupervised contact with his sister he was beaten. Much like the child soldiers of Rwanda or Sierra Leone, he was denied the innocence of youth, and received instead intensive military and ideological training. In essence, they made Yusef Abdullah Rahman into a killing machine. He was sentenced to life in prison.

The blows kept coming. In 1994 another of Sayyidah’s brothers, Shauib Latif, was gunned down by police in N.Y.

The lives of Bilal Abdullah Rahman and Muhammad Ahmed are rich and important parts of our history as African American Muslims, and not skeletons to be locked in a closet! They died defending the House of Allah and HAVE A RIGHT TO BE REMEMBERED HONORABLY. At the same time, we should no longer continue to lift up maniacal, psychopathic gangsters like Ahmed Tawfiq as great leaders.

Again, Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid said “those who know won’t say, and those who say don’t know”.  He also constantly promotes the notion of “healing and reconciliation” , which by that he means between African American and immigrant Muslims. But don’t we need “healing and reconciliation” among ourselves first. And for Imam Alamin to keep this knowledge from his step-daughter for so long is just plain heartless. Perhaps these two leaders could muster some compassion in their hearts and tell this young women where her father lies. All she and her children want to do is visit his grave and pray for him. Is that too much to ask?

If Anyone Out There Has Information Concerning The Gravesite Of Big Bilal Abdullah Rahman, Miss Rahman Would Greatly Appreciate It. Please Send It To this address

Comments
  1. Hamza 21 says:

    I don’t know much about this period in history, I’m only 37, but I would think there was an autopsy. After the autopsy the body would have been sent to funeral home or a person designating to receive the body. So I believe checking the autopsy records could be useful to find clues of the where the brother was buried if someone doesn’t speak up.

    As well as there is only so many cemeteries located in a given area and all cemeteries keep annual records of burials. So that may yield some answers as well.

  2. I’m not Muslim, and so though I read this blog, I don’t comment as I don’t want to offend anyone. However, I know a good deal about doing research and such things. Death certificates are a matter of public record, and she should be able to access that rather easily. In some counties you have to pay a small fee for a copy. As his daughter, she might have to present her birth certificate to prove the relationship. In most counties the death certificate will tell you which funeral home the body was released to, some even tell you where the person was buried.

    Also, there had to have been a murder investigation of some sort, even in those tempestuous days there should’ve been records. She might be able to trace the information this way. I hope I’ve been of help.

  3. Khadija says:

    @Roslyn,

    Thank you for providing those helpful tips for the sister. My heart was heavy and my mind went blank after reading this post. {very long sigh}

    Peace, blessings and solidarity.

  4. @ Khadijia

    Sister I’m sorry, it’s a rough story I know. Pray for this family.

  5. Haram… this is so sad.

  6. Ikram Hadi says:

    JazakAllah for standing up for her.

  7. Abu Muawiyah says:

    May Allah’s curse be on AR Muhammad. He is not worthy of Allah’s mercy for the things that he writes. May Allah curse him and his children and make his babies be born DEAD. May Allah put him in Hell-fire forever, ameen

  8. Rabiya says:

    Sayyida – I’m so sorry for everything you and your family went through and I hope through this story being told, you’re able to find your father’s final resting place.

  9. Al Kubi says:

    As Salaamu Alaikum – this is Al Kubi from http://www.trillstory.com – subhanallaah, when will we learn, as a people, and as American converts to Islaam, whether first or second or even third generation, that we have to get past these “groups” which in reality are “sects” or even worse “cults.” I had to learn the hard way myself – ANY GROUP, I don’t care what they say they are upon, even Salafis, once they identify themselves as something special, sufi, sunni, salafi, etc. – they have broken away from the generality of the Muslims – the Jama’ah and created a “division” or “schism” period. Allaah called us Muslims – period. My advice to all the youth out there, go around to other masaajid, visit other communities, make friendships with good brothers and sisters all across the board, don’t let your parents, or anyone else, box you into one particular masjid, telling you, “we’re right, we’re on the Haqq and everyone else is wrong.”

    May Allaah bring some closure and peace to the sister Sayyida.

  10. Bulma says:

    From what I’ve read, it seems that for many years neither widow or the children wanted to make this an issue. It’s really hard for me to understand that even when your father has been SLAUGHTERED by these militant thugs, some people are so completely brainwashed as to ignore ANYTHING that exposes their Muslim brothers. If these kids were raised in that environment, is it any wonder that the son became a murderer?

  11. Sis Eq says:

    If all the crimes that have been exposed were measured upon a scale, this is certainly a ‘10’ as I can’t imagine much worse. I can’t even bare reading this story as it exacts a heavy emotional toll every time I read it.

    How this doesn’t ring the same amongst our oblivious “leadership” is curious and disturbing.

  12. Question Everything says:

    Can someone explain why we never hear about this sort of thing?

  13. Yousuf Raza says:

    until uprooting the radical ideology that exists in different sections of the Muslim population, putting a complete end to this type of thing will be impossible. There are many individuals in all layers of the community whose objective is to promote the interest of this type of madness

  14. Your Brother in Islam says:

    Don’t you think that perhaps they were trying to PROTECT the sister from knowing that Muslims killed her father when she was but a child? There would be a fitnah in her knowing such a thing and made her feel bad about the Muslim? It makes sense when you think of it that way

  15. Hamza says:

    May Allah bless you Abdul Rahman Muhammad–it takes courage to write and print a story like this, especially when vicious and murderous people will come against you. I already see comments from such people (such as Abu Muawiyah). Good people always face murderers, especially I am sorry to say in the African American community. I don’t have the courage to do what you did ARM, but to me it appears to be very honorable what you have written, and I pray for the truth in your words to bring blessings to you. May Allah curse our cowardice, our protection of what is haram, our protection of murderers, and our protection of “Muslims” who do everything in their power to destroy other Muslims. And may Allah expose and destroy all of those claiming to be Muslims who are nothing more than murderers and thugs who seek nothing more than to enrich themselves and enjoy the physical pleasure of this world. May Allah make us brave and courageous and good. And may Allah bless those among us who are already brave and courageous and good, here and hereafter. ARM you bring honor to all of our people by writing this story, and I pray you have long life, and that Allah bless your family and your children, and multiply your offspring, and give good people victory over evil people, and good Muslims victory over bad Muslims, and correct belief victory over what is evil and corrupted and wrong.

  16. […] AR Muhammad has talked to the daughter of “Big Bilal” Abdullah Rahman, one of four Muslims killed in the 1974 shootout at the Ya Sin Masjid in Brooklyn, NY. […]

  17. […] I do believe this young man was driven insane, just like another of our beautiful youth, Yusef Abdullah Rahman, who was also stolen away from us by this evil, hateful doctrine. True to God, I despise […]

  18. Abdur-Rahman

    I say to you openly for the sake of the young people who read this site, and the enemies of Islam and Muslims who would seek to use your rantings in their war against all of us, who might themselves mistake you for some authoritative source on whatever comes out of your mouth or pen, that you continue to make comments about what you have no knowledge of, events that you were not witness to, about people who you don’t or didn’t even know. Your back-biting and slander based upon supposition, escalates. You need to sit down and study the definition and consequences of these things (back-biting and slander) according to the Qur’an and Sunna that you profess to follow. Further, you misrepresent what I stated, which considering that people can go back and read for themselves, makes either your intent or your state of mind and spirit transparent. Worse yet, now you seek to exploit the trauma of an innocent Muslimah. If it means anything to you, your evil deeds of tongue and pen will bear witness against you on Yaumul-Qiyaamah if you don’t repent (meaning make tauba, which perhaps you should study that also) for this madness. Fear Allah, and go get yourself some therapy. You need it.

  19. Ibn Hector says:

    @ Imam Talib

    Did the shooting incident happen or not? Can you give us some clarification?

  20. Rabiya says:

    I don’t understand. How is trying to find answers in a Muslim-on-Muslim crime where a young Muslim woman is still suffering, where generations were affected by it… how is that “feeding the enemies of Islam?” Is that the line we will continue to trot out anytime a crime, sin, misdeed has been committed by a Muslim to keep people silent? I’m very disappointed.

  21. Abdul-Kareem says:

    Is that the line we will continue to trot out anytime a crime, sin, misdeed has been committed by a Muslim to keep people silent?

    Yes! A Muslim can be run over by another Muslim and if s/he demands his/her right, then they are “airing the dirty laundry” or accused of being FBI. Brothers can borrow money and not pay it back. When the brother demands it, then HE is the criminal. Everything is turned on its head

  22. TO: Rabiya and Abdul-Kareem

    As-Salaamu Alaikum. Please understand the religion that we are called to practice. Back-biting, slander, supposition, assumption, loose-talk, character assasination and other evil uses of gthe tongue are grave sins and NEVER a means for accomplishing anything positive. In Al-Islam we are not encouraged to talk ABOUT n/ people and things that we don’t know. We are encouraged to talk TO and WITH one another as this encourages brotherhood and sisterhood. This is the religion that we are called to practice by our Lord and His Messenger (pbuh), and no, two wrongs don’t make a right. Be wary of the character of those who engage in loose, evil talk, even as other sins. Please read my earlier posts from months ago on this tragedy. As for the suffering young lady, I will reach out to her family i nsha’Allah, and discuss this no further, here. As for our enemies, they are real, and Shaitaan is n/ the main one. Loose, evil talk only benefits our enemies, never us. I have only engaged in this effort at communication for the benefit of young Musxlims , in order to warn again st evils of the tongue. Gurad your tongues and hearts as tghey will be examined on the Day of Judgement. Was Salaam, Imam Talib

  23. Ibn Bilal says:

    Imam Talib

    Sad part about this wall of silence is that more and more people get hurt. What are people like YOU doing to protect the people from such evil? Why should everyone stay silent and just take it on the chin when they are robbed?

  24. […] have tried to make the situation right. They didn’t. Even after the original story sat on this site for a week, no one came forward with the information. A hostile comment did […]

  25. Sister Seeking says:

    Salaam’Alaikum

    @Sr. Rabiya

    It amazes me at how “STUPID” and “IDOITOIC” some of our leaders think we are. Especially if we are women–and worse if we are black women!

    Some readers have justified the manner this situation was handled by saying they were trying to protect this sister?

    Oh, really?

    Maybe the protection ended when she was married off at 14 years of age?

    I’m going to continue to tell black women, and girls to divest from the Muslim community until we have a safe place of our own.

    It’s amazing to see just how many female enablers, and sycophants are amongst us supporting evil. These Imam’s, and Sheiks are giving us lectures about adab tantamount to fire, and brimstone bullying tactics, for encouraging people
    ( especially black women and girls) to divest from situations that undermine their own safety and well-being. What a JOKE…

    I can’t believe how up side DOWN or Islamic morality has become…

    Be safe.

    Salaam

  26. […] Muhammad uses his blog to locate the grave of “Big Bilal” Abdullah Rahman, one of four Muslims slain in a Brooklyn masjid shootout in the bad old days of 1974. […]

  27. […] Muhammad uses his blog to locate the grave of “Big Bilal” Abdullah Rahman, one of four Muslims slain in a Brooklyn masjid shootout in the bad old days of […]

  28. A. Rahman says:

    Please have Sayyidah to contact her sisters who know where our Father Bilal A. Rahman is buried.

    Do Note that Many of Bilal’s children have moved forward with their lives and are living very positive and produtive lives as Muslims.

    I grew up fully knowing the details of my father passing away.

    Shukran your sister in Islam Ms Rahman

  29. Shaherazad Rahman says:

    As the eldest Muslim daughter of My honored father Bilal A. Rahman. Sayyidah has no wish to be incontact with any of her fathers children and has used our father’s death to underhandly justify her unislamic lifestyle as non- practicing muslim .. drugs ,sex violence,welfare,crime of witch she proudly raises her family . Sayyidah know’s little of my brother Yusuf’s life, My mother’s life as Fuqra etc. I really hope that now that Sayyidah has the grave site of our Father let’s see if she goes and visits ..I doubt it and I’m not holding my breath

  30. salafilady2612 says:

    As salamu alaykum,
    Here some proofs from the book & sunnah on permissible backbiting, standing up for justice on behalf of oppressed & defending & interfering on behalf of an evildoer.There is many more but I have children who need tending. This should suffice.

    Fatimah bint Qais (May Allah be pleased with her) said: I came to the Prophet (PBUH) and said to him: “Muawiyah and Abul-Jahm sent me a proposal of marriage.” The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “Muawiyah is destitute and he has no property, and Abul-Jahm is very hard on women.”
    [Bukhari and Muslim].
    She was warned about marrying these men.Warding off an evil takes precedance over covering faults.

    Allâh does not like that the evil should be uttered in public except by him who has been wronged. And Allâh is Ever All­Hearer, All­Knower. 4:148
    Thus it is permissible for oppressed to backbite his oppressors when seeking rights.

    Verily! Allâh commands that you should render back the trusts to those, to whom they are due 4:58

    O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allâh and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Well­Acquainted with what you do. 5:08

    O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allâh, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allâh is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allâh is Ever Well­Acquainted with what you do 4:135

    And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allâh, and for those weak, ill­treated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help.” 4:75

    Whosoever intercedes for a good cause will have the reward thereof, and whosoever intercedes for an evil cause will have a share in its burden. And Allâh is Ever All-Able to do (and also an All-Witness to) everything. 4:85

    Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allâh has cast them back (to disbelief) because of what they have earned. Do you want to guide him whom Allâh has made to go astray? And he whom Allâh has made to go astray, you will never find for him any way (of guidance) 4:88

    “…so be not a pleader for the treacherous. 4:105

    And argue not on behalf of those who deceive themselves. Verily, Allâh does not like anyone who is a betrayer of his trust, and indulges in crime 4:107

    They may hide (their crimes) from men, but they cannot hide (them) from Allâh, for He is with them (by His Knowledge), when they plot by night in words that He does not approve, And Allâh ever encompasses what they do. 4:108

    Lo! You are those who have argued for them in the life of this world, but who will argue for them on the Day of Resurrection against Allâh, or who will then be their defender? 4″109

    Narrated ‘Aisha,radi Allahu anha : The Quraish people became very worried about the Makhzumiya lady who had committed theft. They said, “Nobody can speak (in favor of the lady) to Allah’s Messenger, sal Allahu alayhi wa salam, and nobody dares do that except Usama who is the favorite of Allah’s Messenger. ” When Usama spoke to Allah’s Messenger, sal Allahu alayhi wa salam, about that matter, Allah’s Messenger,sal Allahu alayhi wa salam, said, “Do you intercede (with me) to violate one of the legal punishment of Allah?” Then he got up and addressed the people, saying, “O people! The nations before you went astray because if a noble person committed theft, they used to leave him, but if a weak person among them committed theft, they used to inflict the legal punishment on him. By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad committed theft, Muhammad will cut off her hand.!” (Bukhari)

    From Ibn ‘Umar, radiyallaahu ‘anhumaa, who said that Allaah’s Messenger, sal Allaahu ‘alayhi wa’sallam, said:

    Whoever intercedes and prevents one of the punishments prescribed by Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, then he has opposed Allaah regarding His orders. Whoever dies with a debt due on him then it will not be repaid by deenaars and dirhams but rather by good and bad deeds. Whoever disputes for something which he knows is false then he remains in Allaah’s anger until he desists. Whoever accuses a believer of something that is untrue then Allaah will make him dwell in the pus flowing from the inhabitants of the Fire and he will not leave until he retracts from what he said” (Ahmad & others)

    “The most excellent Jihaad is a truthful word spoken to an oppressive ruler.” The hadeeth was related by Ibn Maajah

  31. LAURA HEANEY says:

    I AM SO GLAD THAT YOU HAVE FINALLY FOUND A RESTING SPOT FOR YOUR FAMILY, AS FOR ME, THE WIFE OF BERNARAD TIMOTHY HEANEY, AND MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN, AND NOW GRANDMOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN, I WILL NEVER FORGET THE LOOK ON MY 9 AND 6 YEAR OLD CHILDREN”S FACES WHEN I TOLD THEM YOUR “BROTHER” GUNNED HIM DOWN FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS WELL AS SHOOTING OUR FAMILY DOG!!!! AS FOR ME, I MADE A PROMSE TO NOT LET MY CHILDREN GROW UP ANGRY AND HATEFULL!!!!!!!!! ALTHOUGHT, WOULD IT BE ALRIGHT FOR MY 6YR OLD TO HAVE GROWN UP AND STARTED SHOOTING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON????? JUST BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO HER “DADDY” NO!!!!!!!!!!! MY CHILDREN AND I MISS THERE FATHER EVERY DAY. HIS GRAND DAUGHTER KOWS THAT HE IS A BEAUTIFUL STAR IN THE SKY, AND NOT SCREWING 20 VIRGINS!!!!! I WISH THE WORLD PEACE, I DO NOT THINK IT WILL END THAT WAY, BUT FOR YOU, PLEASE FIND PEACE IN YOUR HEART, YOU ARE NOT YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER, HE WILL MEET HIS MAKER AND THEN MEET TIM, A FORGIVING MAN, HOW FORGIVING I AM, WE WILL SEE, HE ROBBED MY CHILDREN AND THERE’S. I PRAY FOR ME FOR KINDNESS

  32. joey pinter says:

    man, i would like to be there when that dirt bag meets Tim

  33. J says:

    At the turn of the new day, I decided to do something I had previously never attempted to do….look for information on my father. Things have changed in thus dawn of the technological era we live in today. So I started by searching Google. ( Ive always been taught to look in the simplest place first when it comes to tracking something down) So I typed his name into the Google search engine (His Muslim name as I was made aware that most people knew him by that name) and the entries for the the search came up. The first article read; “Where is “Big Bilal” A daughters cry for answers.” I began reading the articles as I knew the odds of this woman looking for her father suddenly and mine had nothing to do with each other. The name Bilal is also a very common Muslim name. I began reading the article and while certain things were similar, I still did not bold the thought that the two were related. Even when I saw his last name was also the same, I was a little surprised, but nothing made me think there was any connection.

    Then there was the year of his death…that began to make
    my stomach churn a little as the similarities were getting too close. My father died the in the same year…5 months before I was born.

    Then came his given name (Patrick Quince) and I knew that I was not dreaming or mistaken.

    My name is J. Abdullah Rahman.

    “Big Bilal” Abdullah Rahman is my father…And I am his last child.

    I’ve always thought of trying to find out who he was…why he was killed….what he looked like.

    Any help on this matter would be appreciated.

    • yasmin rahman says:

      this is to J i know who u r and would love to reach out to you and share what ever info and pics i have i tried to use facebook to find you but with no luck if you want to contact me let me know your big sister.

    • Abu sadness says:

      Bro J, I am sorry for your loss and finding out on the net, because no one had the decency to tell you face to face, Inshallaah you find ease with this, I just stumbled on this blog because of the salafi community in philly and nj, may Allaah keep u safe ameen

  34. Hajj Salahuddin L. Abdullah says:

    As Salaamu ailakum, I’m saddened by the inability of “Big Bilal’s” daughter to visit his final resting place . That being said I am positively sure that Erskine Funeral Home in Brooklyn on Bedford Ave. & Dean St. is the facility that managed the janaza & Linden New Jersey is the area where the internment tooki place. I believe that unless my memory fails me Aki “Big Bilal ” is interned @ Rosehill Cemetery on 2/6 or 2/7 1974..Stop by the office and they’ll assit you….Ma Salaams to the family (Sister Aisha Abdullah Rahman ( the educator) and the other members and duas for young brother Yusuf).

    • Hajji Muhammad says:

      Bismillahi wa ‘alaykumus salaam,

      Also resting at Rosehilll is Allama Kuli Ahmad Tawfiq as well as the former bodyguard of Al-Hajj Malik Shabazz (Malcolm) R. Abdullah Suleiman (Robert 35X Smith) aka Karate Bob (KB), assassinated by NYC Red Squad.

  35. Abu sadness says:

    I became muslim with the fuqra in 1994, it took awhile but after some time, I see why these others have killed or had the mind-set of jihad, from 94 until 2000 thats all I heard, they broke up my family, they drug me onto the ground, they beat me with a stick all because I asked a few questions about this sheikh they follow. I asked, why make dua for a man to live forever, this is odd. also they claim mubarak ali shah gilani is a man from the Prophets family. Ok this is hard to trace, especially when we all know the Prophet was an arab and this gilani is pakistani. I feel bad for my sister Sayidah and all that was involved, it seemed to be a trying time in our american muslim history, I am from phila, I seen alot too, not like this tho. Nowadays I recently left the rough talking salafi community in philly, they tormented people mentally robbing people of a bright future.
    May Allaah grant us all mercy and ease/

  36. as salaam alaykum wa rahma
    to everyone on the blog after tawhid there is nothing more important than a Muslim child knowing their diceased parents, being able to visit their graves and doing good deeds in their name. This is what our sister Sayyidah and her siblings want and need. As Muslims we are obligated to help them in this. Nothing should come in the way of this. As a friend and comrade to Imam Talib, I ask him to do his duty in this regard before a Day comes when no soul will bare the burden of another.

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